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ENDGAME- ALEX JONES - Blueprint for Global

Mary — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:05:54 GMT

http://vodpod.com/watch/292351-endgame-alex-jones-blueprint-for-global-enslavement

This movie is very long so please don't get discouraged.. it's and excellent watch. Very informative and educational.

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The Underlying Politics of 9-11

Sweep — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:41:04 GMT

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3833814796600268367&hl=en-CA

For those who want some more 9-11 info.....Ralph Shoenman speaking for an hour....this guy looks a bit draconian but has a fervor and good info....

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HAARP Update

ionamiller — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:55:10 GMT

Weather Warfare: Beware the US military€ ’²s experiments with climatic
warfare
€ ’±Climatic warfare€ ’² has been excluded from the agenda on climate
change.

by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, December 7, 2007
The Ecologist, December 2007

"HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction, capable of destabilising
agricultural and ecological systems globally."

"€ ’±Climatic warfare€ ’² potentially threatens the future of
humanity, but has casually been excluded from the reports for which the IPCC
received the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize."

Pdf version of article on Weather Warfare by Michel Chossudovsky, The
Ecologist, December 2007 (pdf)

Rarely acknowledged in the debate on global climate change, the
world€ ’²s weather can now be modified as part of a new generation of
sophisticated electromagnetic weapons. Both the US and Russia have developed
capabilities to manipulate the climate for military use.

Environmental modification techniques have been applied by the US
military for more than half a century. US mathematician John von Neumann, in
liaison with the US Department of Defense, started his research on
weather modification in the late 1940s at the height of the Cold War and
foresaw € ’±forms of climatic warfare as yet unimagined€ ’². During
the Vietnam war, cloud-seeding techniques were used, starting in 1967
under Project Popeye, the objective of which was to prolong the monsoon
season and block enemy supply routes along the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

The US military has developed advanced capabilities that enable it
selectively to alter weather patterns. The technology, which is being
perfected under the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP),
is an appendage of the Strategic Defense Initiative € ’¶ € ’±Star
Wars€ ’². From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass
destruction, operating from the outer atmosphere and capable of destabilising
agricultural and ecological systems around the world.

Weather-modification, according to the US Air Force document AF 2025
Final Report, € ’±offers the war fighter a wide range of possible
options to defeat or coerce an adversary€ ’², capabilities, it says, extend
to the triggering of floods, hurricanes, droughts and earthquakes:
€ ’±Weather modification will become a part of domestic and international
security and could be done unilaterally€ ’¥ It could have offensive
and defensive applications and even be used for deterrence purposes. The
ability to generate precipitation, fog and storms on earth or to modify
space weather€ ’¥ and the production of artificial weather all are a
part of an integrated set of [military] technologies.€ ’²

In 1977, an international Convention was ratified by the UN General
Assembly which banned € ’±military or other hostile use of environmental
modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe
effects.€ ’² It defined € ’±environmental modification techniques€ ’² as
€ ’±any technique for changing € ’¶through the deliberate
manipulation of natural processes € ’¶ the dynamics, composition or structure of
the earth, including its biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere and
atmosphere, or of outer space.€ ’²

While the substance of the 1977 Convention was reasserted in the UN
Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) signed at the 1992 Earth
Summit in Rio, debate on weather modification for military use has
become a scientific taboo.

Military analysts are mute on the subject. Meteorologists are not
investigating the matter and environmentalists are focused on greenhouse gas
emissions under the Kyoto Protocol. Neither is the possibility of
climatic or environmental manipulations as part of a military and
intelligence agenda, while tacitly acknowledged, part of the broader debate on
climate change under UN auspices.

The HAARP Programme

Established in 1992, HAARP, based in Gokona, Alaska, is an array of
high-powered antennas that transmit, through high-frequency radio waves,
massive amounts of energy into the ionosphere (the upper layer of the
atmosphere). Their construction was funded by the US Air Force, the US
Navy and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). Operated
jointly by the Air Force Research Laboratory and the Office of Naval
Research, HAARP constitutes a system of powerful antennas capable of
creating € ’±controlled local modifications of the ionosphere€ ’².
According to its official website, www.haarp.alaska.edu , HAARP will be used
€ ’±to induce a small, localized change in ionospheric temperature so
physical reactions can be studied by other instruments located either
at or close to the HAARP site€ ’².

HAARP Program, Alaska

HAARP array of antennas

But Rosalie Bertell, president of the International Institute of
Concern for Public Health, says HAARP operates as € ’±a gigantic heater that
can cause major disruptions in the ionosphere, creating not just
holes, but long incisions in the protective layer that keeps deadly
radiation from bombarding the planet€ ’².

Physicist Dr Bernard Eastlund called it € ’±the largest ionospheric
heater ever built€ ’². HAARP is presented by the US Air Force as a
research programme, but military documents confirm its main objective is to
€ ’±induce ionospheric modifications€ ’² with a view to altering
weather patterns and disrupting communications and radar.

According to a report by the Russian State Duma: € ’±The US plans to
carry out large-scale experiments under the HAARP programme [and] create
weapons capable of breaking radio communication lines and equipment
installed on spaceships and rockets, provoke serious accidents in
electricity networks and in oil and gas pipelines, and have a negative impact
on the mental health of entire regions.€ ’²*

An analysis of statements emanating from the US Air Force points to the
unthinkable: the covert manipulation of weather patterns,
communications and electric power systems as a weapon of global warfare, enabling
the US to disrupt and dominate entire regions. Weather manipulation is
the pre-emptive weapon par excellence. It can be directed against enemy
countries or € ’±friendly nations€ ’² without their knowledge, used
to destabilise economies, ecosystems and agriculture. It can also
trigger havoc in financial and commodity markets. The disruption in
agriculture creates a greater dependency on food aid and imported grain staples
from the US and other Western countries.

HAARP was developed as part of an Anglo-American partnership between
Raytheon Corporation, which owns the HAARP patents, the US Air Force and
British Aerospace Systems (BAES).

The HAARP project is one among several collaborative ventures in
advanced weapons systems between the two defence giants. The HAARP project
was initiated in 1992 by Advanced Power Technologies, Inc. (APTI), a
subsidiary of Atlantic Richfield Corporation (ARCO). APTI (including the
HAARP patents) was sold by ARCO to E-Systems Inc, in 1994. E-Systems, on
contract to the CIA and US Department of Defense, outfitted the
€ ’±Doomsday Plan€ ’², which € ’±allows the President to manage a nuclear
war€ ’².Subsequently acquired by Raytheon Corporation, it is among the
largest intelligence contractors in the World. BAES was involved in the
development of the advanced stage of the HAARP antenna array under a
2004 contract with the Office of Naval Research.

The installation of 132 high frequency transmitters was entrusted by
BAES to its US subsidiary, BAE Systems Inc. The project, according to a
July report in Defense News, was undertaken by BAES€ ’²s Electronic
Warfare division. In September it received DARPA€ ’²s top award for
technical achievement for the design, construction and activation of the
HAARP array of antennas.

The HAARP system is fully operational and in many regards dwarfs
existing conventional and strategic weapons systems. While there is no firm
evidence of its use for military purposes, Air Force documents suggest
HAARP is an integral part of the militarisation of space. One would
expect the antennas already to have been subjected to routine testing.

Under the UNFCCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
has a mandate € ’±to assess scientific, technical and socioeconomic
information relevant for the understanding of climate change€ ’². This
mandate includes environmental warfare. € ’±Geo-engineering€ ’² is
acknowledged, but the underlying military applications are neither the
object of policy analysis or scientific research in the thousands of pages
of IPCC reports and supporting documents, based on the expertise and
input of some 2,500 scientists, policymakers and environmentalists.
€ ’±Climatic warfare€ ’² potentially threatens the future of humanity,
but has casually been excluded from the reports for which the IPCC
received the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.

Archive of Global Research articles on Weather Warfare

Global Research Articles by Michel Chossudovsky

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7561

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The Fourth Dimension

Gea — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 00:33:40 GMT

It seems to me that there is a lack of clarity over just what the fourth dimension is. And also on what exactly the Fourth Dimension does. In-fact, on many web-pages that I visit, I find an array of documents that say that the fourth dimension is the fragment of the whole Emotional Plane which is known as the Astral Plane – which it is surely not.

The truth of the make-up of the fourth dimension is veiled in the ‘impossible structures’ of mathematical artists, such as M.C. Escher, and which is quite brilliantly depicted his ‘Day and Night’ illustration which is shown below.

read more at: http://snoedel.punt.nl/TheFourthDimension/

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The Ether

marvindublin — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:24:46 GMT

http://tribes.tribe.net/2crossroadsofreligion2/thread/7500e88a-3c12-4536-82bc-656a71ef95a3

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THE NOTHING / MATRIX HAS YOU

michael_irving — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 03:15:53 GMT

36 hours later .... NO DONATIONS SO FAR

Life is getting tricky again / worse than usual

With no donations, I have to decide whether to
cancel the website, or not be able to eat in a
week's time when my monthly payment is taken
for http://www.worldgathering.net

One reason I feel 'World Gathering' may be worth
pursuing is because two days after launching 'World
Gathering 25/26 August 2007' - on May 1st - the
power of the directed energy attack on me doubled.

This increase in harassment seemed to tell me
that there are things 'they' do not want me to do.
The truth is, though, whenever I do any large
postings on the Internet, the power of the laser,
microwave, pulse, sonic, or whatever it is, increases.

'They' just do not want me to communicate with
many other people.

Why are they worrying?

So far, hardly anyone seems interested in the
World Gathering.

A few weeks ago quite a large number of people
were copying World Gathering posters and banners
onto their websites and blogs. But I didn't really
receive feedback from anyone, saying it’s a great
idea, or promising organisation of a local supporting
event for 25/26 August.

I get a spooky feeling.

I was bankrupted in 2004 by four years of targeting,
24/7, by severe amounts of directed energy (my eyesight
went bad and I could hardly walk on many days). I was
therefore made homeless in 2004 and had my full time
attention on the Internet diverted.

The spooky feeling I get is that the world seems to
have disappeared in the three years I have been pushed
off the Net.

People won't participate.

People won't encourage other people.

People won't give donations.
(In the past three years, I have received three
donations via the Internet ... in that time many
millions of people have benefited from the information
I left on the Net and duplicated at perhaps 200+
other websites.... not a very good 'energy exchange',
is it?)

It feels like 'The Nothing' has rendered people useless.

It looks like people are lost in The Matrix.

I think the massive Chemtrail Spraying has perhaps
made most people even more apathetic than they were
three years ago.

Perhaps that is why the World Gathering 25/26 August
2007 would be important .... to help people waken up
again. And to warn the world about the 'Nothing'
spraying......

As the late Hopi elder Dan Evehema said:
We must unite for our SURVIVAL.

But .................... NO donations so far.

Michael Irving

> World Gathering 25 & 26 August 2007
> http://www.worldgathering.net
> http://www.michael-irving.com
> Mirror websites
>
> 1) Appeal By World-Action / World Gathering
> 2) Words of Inspiration To Change The World
>
> ---------
>
> 1) Appeal By World-Action / World Gathering
>
> WORLD GATHERING NEEDS DONATIONS
> - OR WEBSITE MAY GO
>
> World Gathering Needs Your Help ...
>
> http://www.worldgathering.net/news03.html
>
> I am asking people who have benefited now
> or in the past from inspiration, information
> and events organised through the various
> websites I have had over the years, to make
> a donation to help this effort to assist
> the world keep going.
>
> Can you put in a bit to help?
>
> Then, together we can press on forwards
> to help change the world.
>
> Please go to this webpage:
> http://www.worldgathering.net/news03.html
>
> Please pass this request to your friends who know
> about World-Action, Stop-Chemtrails, World Gathering,
> Inspiring Times, Words Waken World, etc. - thank you
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Sincerely,
> Michael Irving
> World Gathering, World-Action, Stop Chemtrails,
> Inspiring Times, Words Waken World, World-Action 2
> http://www.worldgathering.net
> http://www.michael-irving.com
>
> ---------
>
> 2) Words of Inspiration To Change The World
>
> "We must do what we conceive to be the right
> thing and not bother our heads or burden our
> souls with whether we will be successful.
> Because if we don't do the right thing, we
> will be doing the wrong thing and we will just
> be a part of the disease and not a part of
> the cure." - E. F. Schumacher
>
> "Each of us is put here in this time and this
> place to personally decide the future of humankind.
> Did you think you were put here for something
> less?" - Chief Arvol Looking Horse
>
> "To be yourself, in a world that tries, night
> and day, to make you just like everybody else
> - is to fight the greatest battle there ever
> is to fight, and never stop fighting."
> - e. e. cummings
>
> "We are at the final stages now ... so as our
> prophecy says. Then it must be up to the people
> with pure hearts that will not be afraid to
> help us to fulfil our destiny in peace for
> this world" - Dan Evehema, late Hopi elder
>
> "Learn to listen to the voice of truth which
> is within you and will lead you onto the path
> of evolution. This is our message to you,
> our dear friends. We have watched you growing
> for many years, just as you have watched our
> lights in the sky. You know now that we are
> here and that there are more beings on and
> around your Earth than your scientists care
> to admit. We are deeply concerned about you
> and your path towards the light and we will
> do all that we can to help you."
> --- This is the ending of the 1977 'Voice-Over
> Message' in the UK. Millions of TV viewers
> in southern England heard a voice give this
> message while normal TV pictures were shown.
> TV engineers struggled to stop the audio
> broadcast, but failed. A similar TV voice-over
> happened in the USA within a year or two
> of the above message.
>
> "Our lives begin to end the day we
> become silent about things that matter."
> - Martin Luther King, Jnr
>
> "The most courageous act is still to think
> for yourself. Aloud." - Coco Chanel
>
> "The world is now too dangerous for anything
> less than utopia." - Buckminster Fuller
>
> ---------
>
> WORLD GATHERING NEEDS DONATIONS
> - OR WEBSITE MAY GO
> World Gathering Needs Your Help ...
> http://www.worldgathering.net/news03.html
>
> ---------
>
> World Gathering 25 & 26 August 2007
> http://www.worldgathering.net
> http://www.michael-irving.com
> Mirror websites
>
> Please forward to friends and contacts
> - thank you

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9/11 Conspiracy Nuts Check out what gasoline fire can do to concrete & steel

tonytohono — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:29:51 GMT

So you people who say that jet fuel can't melt steel and that the twin towers came down because of explosives? Uh huh. Come over to the Bay Area and see what a fuel truck can do to a freeway. That's burn it until the steel melts and the overpass falls down. THROUGH concrete.

So much for the rumors that jet fuel (which burns hotter than regular gas) can't melt steel I beams.

Oh but wait. This is probably part of hte cover up isn't it? Yeah right.

Sheesh.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nwzchik/detail?blogid=32&entry_id=15951

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World Gathering - 25 & 26 August 2007

michael_irving — Sat, 26 May 2007 05:36:50 GMT

Here is a good time and place to discuss important matters .....

World Gathering - 25 & 26 August 2007

http://tribes.tribe.net/worldgathering
--------------------------------------------

Please forward to friends, contacts and mailing lists.
---

World Gathering
- 25 & 26 August 2007
- Saturday and Sunday
http://www.worldgathering.net
http://www.michael-irving.com
(These 2 websites are mirror images of each other.)

http://tribes.tribe.net/worldgathering

- WORLD GATHERING 25 & 26 AUGUST 2007
- All Night Gathering On Hilltops Worldwide
- Use Powerful Flashlights To Signal Other Hilltops
- Time For The Gathering - New Dawn Coming
- Truth For The World - Peace For The World
- Global Meetings - Global Powwows
- The Truth Is Coming
- 25 & 26 AUGUST 2007 WORLD GATHERING
- HILLTOPS WORLDWIDE - BE THERE!

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"Whatever you can do, or dream you can do, begin it.
Boldness has genius, power and magic in it." - Goethe
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"A very great vision is needed and the person who
has it must follow it as the eagle seeks the deepest
blue of the sky." - Chief Crazy Horse
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WORLD GATHERING - August 2007
Saturday August 25 and Sunday August 26
Three Events In One .....
(1) Saturday - DAY: Meet with friends and
contacts and discuss the world situation.
(2) Saturday - NIGHT: Meet on a hilltop and
shine a beacon of hope through the night.
(3) Sunday - DAY: Meet with friends and
contacts and discuss the world situation.

The main details for the World Gathering are here:
http://www.worldgathering.net/gathering.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/gathering.html

Arrange Meetings, Powwows, and Hilltop 'Beacon'
vigils for Saturday and Sunday, 25th & 26th August.
Then, send your event details to the email on this page:
http://www.worldgathering.net/contact.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/contact.html

Details of LOCAL 'World Gatherings' will be displayed
under fourteen 'World Regions'; then by Country/Nation;
then by area, state, etc. The main index for the details
of LOCAL 'World Gatherings' is on this webpage:
http://www.worldgathering.net/events.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/events.html

The World Gathering is being launched at the end of
May, 2007, so there may not be many details at our
websites for Local Events until the end of June.

'What should I organise in my area for the World
Gathering?' - Ideas and suggestions on this webpage:
http://www.worldgathering.net/yourevent.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/yourevent.html

Join our Google and/or Yahoo Newsletter lists:
http://groups.google.com/group/worldgathering
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/worldgathering

Discussion and Planning at TRIBE:
http://tribes.tribe.net/worldgathering

Watch a short, 'World Gathering' slideshow video at
either Google Video or YouTube. Search at Google
Video or YouTube for: 'WORLD GATHERING'.

Please help publicise this unusual and unique global
linkup. Print out posters; place a WG banner on your
website; forward our Update mailings to your friends,
contacts, and mailing lists; and tell friends about the
World Gathering video at Google and YouTube.
Ideas and materials for WG promotion here:
http://www.worldgathering.net/publicity.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/publicity.html

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"Use every letter you write, every conversation
you have, every meeting you attend, to express your
fundamental beliefs and dreams. Affirm to others
the vision of the world you want."
- Dr Robert Muller, formerly of the U.N.
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“We are at the final stages now… so as our prophecy
says. Then it must be up to the people with pure hearts
that will not be afraid to help us to fulfil our destiny in
peace for this world.” - Dan Evehema, Hopi Nation
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Additional 'World Gathering' inspiration here:
http://www.worldgathering.net/worldgathering.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/worldgathering.html

- WORLD GATHERING 25 & 26 AUGUST 2007
- All Night Gathering On Hilltops Worldwide
- Use Powerful Flashlights To Signal Other Hilltops
- Time For The Gathering - New Dawn Coming
- Truth For The World - Peace For The World
- Global Meetings - Global Powwows
- The Truth Is Coming
- 25 & 26 AUGUST 2007 WORLD GATHERING
- HILLTOPS WORLDWIDE - BE THERE!

World Gathering
25 & 26 August 2007
http://www.worldgathering.net
http://www.michael-irving.com
(These 2 websites are mirror images of each other.)

http://tribes.tribe.net/worldgathering

Please forward to friends, contacts and mailing lists.

Thank you. World Gathering.

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Wake up Great Britain to the conspiracy hapening around you,Your police force is comiting theft.

lee — Sun, 25 Mar 2007 03:01:22 GMT

Two years ago labour gave the police force the power to take and auction off any vehicle caught on the road without insurance. GOOD i hear you say there only doing it for our benerfit so when that rogue runs into our vehicles we know they are covered. This wouldnt be a problem only within the last two years insurance premiums have nearly doubled so that alot of people have become unable two afford the rates. YOU WORK IT OUT, they also take your vehicle without tax, i bet it wasnt only my reminder that came 3 weeks late from D.V.L.A, why do you think theres been such an amount of police on spot checks lately, especially round the school run times, they say they crush them yet if you scrap a car now the scrapman will give you as much as £80.00 for it, wouldnt think he'd pay with the amount the police are giving him would you. Your car is being stolen from you and then sold with the funds going to the police force in order to pay for it.

Wake up Britain, our familys died in wars to uphold the stadards of britain and to keep it free from bullies, stand up for our own human rghts.

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Favourite conspiracy?

bobs — Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:03:58 GMT

I've always been fascinated by the Roswell story ( amongst others). Maybe because of it's fantastic nature just grips the imagination. But also the more relevant stories such as the reasons given for the war in Iraq, the assasination of Kennedy, or the stories surrounding the death of Diana.

Which are the stories which have caught your imagination?

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Diana - Conpiracy or not?

sarah_inc — Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:50:50 GMT

Does anyone really believe that Diana was murdered? If so why do you believe it and who do you think ordered it to be done?

Personally I think it was a terrible accident and, sadly, one that was destined to happen with the press attention she was receiving at the time. However I'm open to what others think ...

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its time to arrest gw bush and dick cheney for treason

michael — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:31:13 GMT

sound crazy? go download 9/11 mysteries demolitions and alex jones video 'Terror Storm' (fully documented)and and watch closely, then tell me what you think,
some facts to ponder;
did you know bush has been threatening members of both houses with arrest and lie detector tests, who leak info about 9/11 facts to press? and who want to investgate 9/11. like the fact bush had prior knowledge of 9/11(multiple warnings)
did you know many of 9/11 terrorists were trained on american military bases? this all is documented in jones documentary 'masters of terror', bush is blocking all investigations of 9/11. why????
also he is a traitor for his signing north american union agreement with leaders of both mexico and canada which dissolves our borders and merges all 3 into one govt. without congressional or voter approval.
he has turned america in to a nazi germany twilight zone (as alex jones puts it)with his patriot act, military commisions act, fema ,nsa, cia, and military spying on american ctizens, and militarizing our police.
he has started a war and killed 1.2 million people on false pretenses, aside over 3000 american soldiers,this is a war crime in itself.
he is getting ready to attack Iran and further deepening the middle east conflict on false pretenses.possibly starting a global war.
that residue of thermate a high temperature column cutting explosive has been found on wtc steel columns.
that many firemen, police and emergency workers are coming forward and speaking out about multiple explosions they heard at wtc that fateful day.
bush has spent over 1.6 bil on fake news reports to media , this is a felony! and he should be arrested on this point alone.and the cia has operatives in all the big media agencies, cnn, nbc, abc, cbs
bush and cheny's families are making billions from war (carlyle group and haliburton)

its time for the bush bootlickers in congress(democrats and republicans alike) to get some intestinal fortitude and arrest this dirty little bastard and wrestle control of our govt back from the executive branch. also it is time for a new investigation of 9/11 with civilian oversight, because congress is too corrupt, and cannot be trusted (except a select few)like ron paul.

i'm pissed off!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael C, Peck

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MRU - beyond MK Ultra

ionamiller — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:39:17 GMT

Been under deep cover at spook central; check out the real Cigarette Man.

http://beyondmkultra.50megs.com

peace in,
Iona
http://ionatopia.50megs.com

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2012 resources?

feralkittycat — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:05:30 GMT

hey... i am looking for a good book or internet resource that pulls together ALL the different elements of the 2012 thing...

i want something that covers everything from the material provided by remotie viewers to the whole daniel pinchbeck quetzcoatl thing... to information provided by mediums and psychics... to the new world order/denver airport/illunimati/freemason conspiracy thing... the whole great big cross-polinated enchilada - people who say it's gonna be a good thing to the idea that it's gonna be a horrible thing...

anybody know a great encyclopedic source for the the 2012 thing?

thanks a bunch!!!

xoxo,
>^..^<
_________________
feralkittycat

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SEX ORGY CONSPIRACY

zargon — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:31:52 GMT

I have reason to believe that aliens are attempting to divert attention away from Kirtland airforce base by staging a huge US sex orgy for xmas eve, shhh don't tell anyone :-)

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I think there's a CONSPIRACY going on to get a flying saucer from Kirtland airforce base New Mecioc

zargon — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:33:50 GMT

For Xmas.... shhhhh don't breathe a word of this to anyone. Especially the F.B.I the C.I.A Mosad KGB or Arnold Shwartznegger. & ors. :-)

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hh

Lorenzo-g — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:31:39 GMT

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7374585792978336967

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Immortality, compassion and love for all those who want to listen

Dr Dominic — Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:08:40 GMT

hello
The first chapter of my book after 25 years of research has within it the keys to IMMORTALITY IN PREPARATION FOR ASCENSION.
FROM CHAPTER ONE TAKE X the healing factor , apply it to the blood , body and brain, this will make the human body all positive and Immortal, once you have read the book , contact me for the 3 ways it will be done…2 slow , 1 on mass.....(via a pyramid using the Sun and Sirius energy on the dog days).... the the pyramids will be opened later on FOR LIGHT WORKERS,I hope you understand what I am saying...................Tell all your light worker friends to get the book as I am a Light Worker myself, who has been presented now with the understandings of immortality ,which I must give to other light workers. This is the information you have to pass on for the good of all light workers.
in the light
Dominic
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Best political multimedia resource on Tribe.net?

Abraxas2k12 — Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:47:49 GMT

Could it possibly be... the Info Bunker?

http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker

Documentaries: http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker/thread/46e3e76f-20d1-4c76-9d21-f9c9e2bfac23
Music videos: http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker/thread/ed4d8ee3-8f03-449c-9679-f63b040d4e72
Misc. media: http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker/thread/3148ee1c-2e00-4a16-a977-8b9b42c4c5b0

Constructive contributions welcome!

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MUST SEE VIDEO ON WIFE OF COL. GEORGE GRIGGS, SHE SPILLS BEANS ON BUSH, KISSINGER, SKULL & BONES, CORRUPTION, ASSASINS, HOMOSEXUALS

Gea — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:45:49 GMT

Kay Griggs Talks: Blackmail In US Government Part 1-2
>
> Kay Griggs, wife of colonel George Griggs, USMC
> (retired USMC Commandant): 29th Commandant of the
> Marine Corps, found her husband's diary, which
> contains details of homosexual blackmail in the top
> ranks of the US Marine Corps and names leading
> politicians and military leaders. Kay Griggs's
> information about the US government also comes from
> observations and people she met. She exposes
> initiation rituals, the raping of young men and
> blackmail and murders to keep people quiet. Much of
> this, according to Griggs, is related to secret
> society activity and she names figures like Henry
> Kissinger and a string of other top government
> individuals.
>
> Part 1
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-341031042963487862&q=kay+griggs
> <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-341031042963487862&q=kay+griggs>
>
> Part 2
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9137016279925999679&q=Kay+Griggs&hl=en
> <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9137016279925999679&q=Kay+Griggs&hl=en>
>
> More infos here:
> http://www.kaygriggstalks.com/

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Honor the Memory, Press for Truth

Abraxas2k12 — Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:51:52 GMT

In memory of all lives lost that day, and every life lost subsequently as consequence.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2343737961538650348&q=9%2F11+slideshow&hl=en

9/11 Press for Truth
http://www.911PressForTruth.com
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1016720641536424083&q=%22press+for+truth%22

Entire film is based on interviews with victims' family members and mainstream news reports. I will be purchasing multiple copies of this DVD to give to family and friends. If you find the film helpful, please support the filmmakers and purchase a copy for yourself or as a gift.

May the truth be known and justice served.

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"9/11: Press For Truth" Grand Lake showing

Abraxas2k12 — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:25:49 GMT

http://www.911PressForTruth.com/

SEPTEMBER 7 – OAKLAND, CA
Grand Lake Theater, 3200 Grand Ave.
(510) 452-3556
(2 Showings. 7PM. 9PM)

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Who Killed George Reeves

willat — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:55:41 GMT

I was born in 1950, so Superman was one of my childhood heros.

I heard a playground rumor that superman was dead. One of the older kids said he tried to fly from the top of a "tall building".

Imagine my parents trying to explain his death to me in terms I a little kid could understand. Suicide crept into the discussion much later.

So, who killed George Reeves? or was it suicide?

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/JackCraig/SUPERMAN1.html

http://www.tvparty.com/super.html

http://www.supermanbook.com/index.php3?gg_id=824772667

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Radio

Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:31:47 GMT

http://www.upstartradio.com/Internet%20Radio%20Broadcast.html

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earthlings are DYING.

zargon — Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:37:40 GMT

microbiologists.Ha!. Look at all the people generally that are dying. You think this is NORMAL don't you. Death.
It isn't. You have a choice of living or dying.You're choosing to die.
That's stupid.

The only 'scientific' way that you can avoid death is by travelling faster than the speed of light. Something that's ONLY possible with magnetic drive vehicles,and the ONLY such vehicle currently being hidden at Kirtland airforce base New Mexico and which I can't get to because no-one will help me.
Aren't you even going to check it out? Is death you're choice?
Live a little folks.

You see,the universe is divided into two states.Light speed and faster than light speed.
At light speed death prevails. It's a deteriorating state,impermanent.
Faster than light speeds opens up another state.One in which you can't die. It's a deathless state.Permanent.

You can only access it through my vehicle,but you can't or won't allow me to demonstrate it's capabilities.

I can wait. I can't die.I can prove it,but you will,time will prove that clearly enough.
Save yourselves.Get me my vehicle before it's too late.

How difficult can it be,how important to you?
Let me show you the truth of what I tell you.Be scientific-not dead.
Don't say that I didn't tell you.

I may not be very effective in my attempts to communicate this fact to you but let me try once again.You don't HAVE to die.YOU CAN LIVE FOREVER AT FASTER THAN LIGHT SPEEDS.

GET ME MY VEHICLE AND YOU WILL!

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"Armageddon" rock misses Earth by Moon's distance

voidportal — Sun, 02 Jul 2006 17:05:16 GMT

Not a conspiracy, apparently:

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/%22Armageddon%22_rock_misses_Earth_by_Moon%27s_distance

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Has anyone been to Moonhoax.com

Mr. DV — Sun, 28 May 2006 06:48:54 GMT

Hi ..check this out
http://www.moonhoax.com

A documentary that tries to prove we landed on the moon...Ends up with more questions...including the Nazis role in NASA. New interviews with Buzz and Gene Kranz..Clips at site..rent at Netflix

DID WE GO? A Documentary

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is cinema a message from above ?

Sigiel — Fri, 26 May 2006 00:49:42 GMT

hi,

i wanted to share with you one of my deepest thought i ever had,

look a bit silly even to me, neverless i still think it is correct, my general idea about the univers is the following,

i think the material world here is a prison, more specificly the body is a prison cell, for the soul, the spirit, you whatever you name it,

i think as a good prison, you have gardian, administrator and so one, that watch over you make sure you stay in it.

however, and that my thought i wanted to talk about, is that they are also force that try to set you free too,

and is my depest belive that sometime they use a medium to communiocate, that medium i think is cinema.

Agrh that's it.

i think artist are in touch knowingly or unknowingly with hight stae of awarness, and existance and sometime willingly and unwillingly they do carry message,
that speack the very nature of the univers,

to give you an exemple, i did watch gangs of newyork, and if you watch it with a open yes, it's realy mi9nd opening, there is all the ellement od conspiration theorist,

the allseeing eye with the eagle of the boutcher, and his resemblance with oncle sam,
the irish guy catholique, named amsterdam,

the connection betewen the boutcher and the vis maire or somthing who is a member of a secret society borderless freemason,

all the symbology or the five street, who look like a pantagram from above

the irish quater who look like a mad house or asilum,

the pseuso magic ritual that the irish undergo beford having the battel with the boucher army and a lot more, i don't remember.

that is a simple exemple.

whatch it again you will see, i was proprely astonished by the amount of conspiraty symbolism in that movie,
wich is the worse piss take ever on american socitey.

so that about it,

just wanted to know what you guys think about it.

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9/11 Documentary Listing

Abraxas2k12 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:51:47 GMT

I figured since I spent the time to build this post for another tribe, I'd post it here for reference as well.

Watch, *investigate*, decide.

9/11: Painful Deceptions
Part 1: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Painful%20Deceptions%20-%20An%20Analysis%20of%20the%20911%20Attack%20part%201.wmv
Part 2: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Painful%20Deceptions%20-%20An%20Analysis%20of%20the%20911%20Attack%20part%202.wmv
Part 3: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Painful%20Deceptions%20-%20An%20Analysis%20of%20the%20911%20Attack%20part%203.wmv

Confronting the Evidence
Part 1: http://www.amurka.com/mpg/911_1.wmv
Part 2: http://www.amurka.com/mpg/911_2.wmv
Part 3: http://www.amurka.com/mpg/911_3.wmv
Part 4: http://www.amurka.com/mpg/911_4.wmv
Part 5: http://www.amurka.com/mpg/911_5.wmv

Loose Change
Part 1: http://www.a15181636.alturo-server.de/911-LooseChange1.wmv
Part 2: http://www.a15181636.alturo-server.de/911-LooseChange2.wmv
Loose Change - 2nd Edition
Part 1: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Loose%20Change%202E%201of3.wmv
Part 2: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Loose%20Change%202E%202of3.wmv
Part 3: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Loose%20Change%202E%203of3.wmv

9/11: Evidence to the Contrary
http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/September%2011-%20Evidence%20to%20the%20Contrary%20REDUX%202006.wmv

The Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw
http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/%5BDocumentary%5D.The.Great.Conspiracy-The.9-11.News.Special.You.Never.Saw.wmv

AfterMath: Unanswered Questions From 9/11
Part 1: http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/GNN%20-%20Aftermath%20-%20Unanswered%20Questions%20of%209-11.wmv
Part 2: http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/GNN%20-%20Aftermath%20-%20Live%20Panel.wmv
Part 3: http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/GNN%20-%20Aftermath%20-%20Additional%20Interviews.wmv

Mohammed Atta and the Venice Flying Circus
http://www.lastingnetworks.com/alexvideos/flyingcircus256.wmv

9/11: The Great Illusion
Part 1: http://download.alciada.net/911/911-TheGreatIllusion/911-TheGreatIllusion1.wmv
Part 2: http://download.alciada.net/911/911-TheGreatIllusion/911-TheGreatIllusion2.wmv

Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State
Part 1: http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/Alex%20Jones%20-%20Martial%20Law%202005%20-%20part1of3.wmv
Part 2: http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/Alex%20Jones%20-%20Martial%20Law%202005%20-%20part2of3.wmv
Part 3: http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/Alex%20Jones%20-%20Martial%20Law%202005%20-%20part3of3.wmv

9/11: The Road to Tyranny
http://download.alciada.net/911/911TheRoadToTyranny.wmv

9/11 and the American Empire - Dr. David Ray Griffin lecture at University of Wisconsin
Recorded and broadcast by CSPAN
http://www.apfn.org/Movies/griffin_madison_full_25.wmv

Cynthia McKinneys critical review of the 9/11 Comission Report
Recorded and broadcast by CSPAN
Part 1: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Cynthia%20McKinney%20on%20CSPAN%20-%20911%20report%20card%201%20of%204.wmv
Part 2: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Cynthia%20McKinney%20on%20CSPAN%20-%20911%20report%20card%202%20of%204.wmv
Part 3: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Cynthia%20McKinney%20on%20CSPAN%20-%20911%20report%20card%203%20of%204.wmv
Part 4: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Cynthia%20McKinney%20on%20CSPAN%20-%20911%20report%20card%204%20of%204.wmv

Truth and Lies of 9/11 w/ ex-LAPD Mike Ruppert
Part 1: http://www.thelawparty.com/MediaPlayer/911/TruthandLies0f911Part156k.wmv
Part 2: http://www.ganjasound.fsworld.co.uk/films%20&%20clips/mike%20ruppert_911%20the%20truth%20and%20lies%20part%202.rm
Part 3: http://www.ganjasound.fsworld.co.uk/films%20&%20clips/mike%20ruppert_911%20the%20truth%20and%20lies%20part%203.rm
Part 4: http://www.indybay.org/uploads/truthlies9-11part4.wmv

The Truth Behind 9/11
Michel Chossudovsky - professor of economics, University of Ottawa
http://vancouver.indymedia.org/uploads/michel.mov

911 Citizens' Inquiry
Mike Ruppert - former LAPD narcotics officer, whistleblower & author
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/ruppertinterview911mar0456k.wmv
Barrie Zwicker - TV host/producer & media critic
http://chicago.indymedia.org/usermedia/video/12/zwicker911conf03200456k.wmv
Paul Thompson - cooperativeresearch.org
http://chicago.indymedia.org/usermedia/video/1/pthompson911inqmar0456k.wmv
Webster Tarpley - co-author 'George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography'
http://images.indymedia.org/imc/washingtondc/media/video/4/tarpley911inqmar0456k.wmv
Mathias Broeckers - journalist & writer
Part 1: http://ontario.indymedia.ca/twiki/pub/Ontario/mov/2004/broeckers156k.mov
Part 2: http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/broeckersplatoscave256k.mov
Nafeez Ahmed - author
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/nafeezahmad911conf03200456k.wmv
Ralph Schoenman - radio host & activist
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2004/04/103862.wmv
Jim Marrs - investigative journalist & author
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2004/04/103788.wmv
Phil Berg - former Pennsylvanian deputy attorney general
http://images.indymedia.org/imc/seattle/media/2004/04/240155.mov
Eric Hufschmid - author
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/ehufschmpt1911inqmar0456k.wmv
Ken Jenkins - psychologist, videographer
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2004/04/103718.wmv

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http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker

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Pushing the theory to the extreme...

Sigiel — Sun, 14 May 2006 13:49:36 GMT

hi, i recently had a thought, wile i was on David Ike website, reading about reptilian stuff and other things, it just popped up like that.

and if all conspirational where made only to distract one from seeking the truth,

what i mean is to me the population is divided into group, there is the sleepers (people that just live there live, don't question anything) there is the educated sleepers that do actually study there's dream life, there is the awaken, that ask himself basic question who am i, what am i, why I'm here and stuff) and the anaesthetist, (the guy that the job is to keep you asleep) I'm sure there is more group of people too ...

there is all way the guy that will ask himself question, asking question is dangerous, and it seem to me that conspiracy theory are another kind of control, like religions, so I'm sure there is a lot of crap that was sent around to confuse the all subject.

don't get me wrong, I'm a conspirator.... but after a while i realise that i was passing way to much time to find news, proof and data or other fact, and the time i passed to search, i could have used to actually try to make a better living, or to help other and stuff,

i do know that life on earth in the 2 millennium is a gross illusion, but all of it is illusion, every single piece of it. conspirators theory included.

it's a kind of very abstract thought I'm trying to communicate,. recently i decided to start anew, to drop all, especially what i thought i new. cause it didn't add up. for me a data is valuable as fare as i can use it. and a good valuable piece of data or information will be the one that will increase my survival rate. may happiness and stuff.

give you an example, the vaccine theory, is a valuable one, as it kept me out of trouble, i never had any vaccine what so ever. and last time i had a check up, my doctor told me that my immune system was fare above normal, it's the same for my dad, my mum and my brother and sister, the common data is that all of use never had any vaccine, well my mum had some and nearly died out of it, so she decided to not let this happen to us.

another one is the aspartame theory, both my grand mum and grand dad from all side had died from brain damage, and i know from fact that they all used aspartame especially my grand dad who was diabetic, and other guy in my family... so i do keep away from it. and it even more and more of a challenged to find anything without that fucking damned poison.

see where I'm going?

so sometime when i read about skull and bones, illuminaty and stuff, (i really does interest me) but after a while it bored me, cause i can't use that data to increase directly my survival, i know what and who they are, what they want, so in a senses, I can see better, but what the sue of knowing all the detail... the juicy part, the last move on the chest board ?,

i rather study the law in university (i did) so i can actually defend myself better with it. study meditation so i can de stress better, martial art, and so one... so i will be more able to face life. I'm 29 now, I'v been in conspiracy theory since I'm about 12, i was fortunates a nought to be one of the first kid to have access to Internet. or the like (my dad was working making software) and he was heavily involved in esoterica, he was a fee mason (is not any more). so i know first hand few juicy stuff, but after 15 years of intense research, i asked myself what if all of what i know on this subject is a lie ( i really believe that truth is the solution that it will set me free) but these theory didn't set me free. some really did help me, other where totally useless.

recently i was like most of you interested in 9.11 and did lot of research and stuff look many web page, and so one, but most of the data i saw wasn't to my satisfaction, always in the back of my head that little voice (if it was also a lie to distract you from seeing the truth).
so i did look at 911 from a totally new angle, i say to myself what can YOU really observe. i did watch the news at the time, i did recall some thing, and i had the chance to be friend of a guy who did work with the fire man to help cleaning up ground zero. so i had this first hand witness that i do trust. well my friend is totally convinced that the official story is the real one, he saw ground zero and stuff, but he also was around a saw people , how ever after talking to him kinda heavily on it, few thing appeared misplaced and so one, so by looking myself i could see that this theory was correct too. but as it use.... I'm in France, my state is already fascist.

i recently read a small part of the ART of WAR. and distraction and deceit is one of the best way to win a war... so what if.... all conspiracy theory where just another smock screen....

that all i wanted to say.

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Why are UFOS...

Mon, 03 Apr 2006 05:21:45 GMT

why are most UFO sightings reported only by toothless disabled white trash hillbillies living in a trailer home in some western or southern state shithole that could not be of any interest to any space alien?

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Alarm over shopping radio tags

bobs — Sun, 09 Apr 2006 09:52:37 GMT

Alarm over shopping radio tags

By David Reid
Click reporter

Supermarkets have already brought everything under the sun under one roof, and along the way been accused of denuding the High Street of butcher, baker and candlestick-maker.

Now they are introducing a new technology that some say threatens a fundamental invasion of our privacy.

We are all familiar with barcodes, those product fingerprints that save cashiers the bother of keying in the code number of everything we buy.

Now, meet their replacement: the RFID tag, or radio frequency ID tag.

These smart labels consist of a tiny chip surrounded by a coiled antenna.

Good tracking

While barcodes need to be manually scanned, RFID simply broadcasts its presence and data to electronic readers.

It means the computer networks of companies can track the position and progress of billions of products on rail, road, sea and shelf.

Albrecht Von Truchsess, from the German supermarket chain Metro Group, which uses this technology, says: "RFID really brings a revolution to everything that is transported from one point to the other, and in the future you will have it really on everything.

"That means that we don't have to do anything while the goods are on the way from the production site to our stores. It is just done automatically."

For all the benefits the technology promises, the roll-out of RFID is in danger of being derailed by the public's perception of it.

A Christian author in the US, for example, has just published a book claiming RFID will evolve into the mark of the beast featured in Revelation and presage the end of the world.

'Big Brother'?

The technology has also attracted criticism from more moderate voices.

Among these is Vint Cerf. He is one of the inventors of the internet and is now employed by Google as the company's internet evangelist.

He told Click: "What everybody worries about is that these identifiers will be used not to keep track of the object, but of the person associated with the object and then there's a Big Brother scenario that everybody worries about.

"But when the economics get to the point where the readers are inexpensive and the chips are inexpensive, then you start to ask yourself who has the ability to read the chips and what do they do with the information?"

Metro sees RFID working for it by having food traceable back to the farm, queues cut to nothing, and shelves that shout when they are empty.

But with remotely readable tags on everything from boots to beans, is it the customers or what they buy that is being labelled?

Former Australian privacy commissioner Malcolm Crompton says: "If done wrongly, it really is possible that I can buy things in one shop and be tracked in another shop, that the data, once collected, stays there for someone to come in and collect and use under circumstances that I don't know about or that I don't approve of.

"I think that is when society is on a slippery slope."

The fear is that what we buy will be forever linked to us. In the nightmare scenario, an innocently discarded soft drink can could end up in what later becomes a crime scene.

RFID could open a whole new field of forensics where the tag on the can removes any reasonable doubt.

Taking steps

Concerns about RFID have been taken up by Viviane Reding, the European commissioner for information society and media.

She has recently launched a public consultation process with a view to seeing whether RFID needs to be regulated.

She says: "A new technology that is bound to be multiplied by 10 to 15 times in the next coming years in numbers of sales will not fly, and will not be of benefit to the community and to the economy if the consumers are afraid that this technology might be a threat to their privacy."

One solution being floated is the idea of killing the code on the chip as customers leave the shop.

Whatever comes out of the European Commission's consultation, it looks likely that your Saturday shop will never be the same again.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/4886598.stm

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Osama Bin Laden

fear_n_loathing — Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:26:28 GMT

So.......does anyone else think that Osama Bin Laden could have been completely made up by the government?

It's kinda ironic how we always are SO CLOSE to getting to him and then poof, he's gone again. And those videos could be made anywhere. We caught Saddam in a relatively short amount of time compared to how many years we've been looking for Osama? And it's just like the government to make someone up for the masses to blame and be angry at.

Or am I crazy?

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Military bases covering up the next area 51?

Mup_Dit — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:45:55 GMT

Sierra army depot is a very peculiar place to grow up and lemme tell you It's the next area 51! I've seen some pretty amazing stuff there growing up in the deserts by highway 395!

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GET GAS NOW!

fear_n_loathing — Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:23:00 GMT

Now I'm not the paranoid type but....

Hurricane katrina is disrupting the oil flow to the country. Bush said he might even let go of some of the reserves. I suggest people get gas asap incase it doesn't go down anytime soon.

BTW, anyone catch "oil storm" on FX about a month back?

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chemtrail update

ionamiller — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:24:28 GMT

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yesterday by a squadron of corporatized goons who lay down an intense
grid of chemtrail spray. Flying from the West, as is their usual
predatory pattern, the trails were laid out mostly in a West to East
pattern. Since then the region immediately began to haze up and an extensive
haze has covered much of the area. This has no doubt cooled the area
by reflecting more sunlight off the desert back into outer space. It
has also no doubt tended to make the area, relative to surrounding zones,
more of a high pressure, dense air zone, keeping badly needed moisture
from flowing over the region. All resident citizens should be notified
that their property, lives, and natural environment are being attacked
by brigrands and pirates who are stealing away their livelihoods and
the quality of their lives. All citizens should begin to keep area logs
to record all acts of assault and theft which they can witness in their
areas by the pirates. These logs will be necessary for arming citizen
militias with ammunition for enjoining arrest of the goons and seizure
of the assets of those who command them at the appropriate time and in
the appropriate manner.

Iona
http://ionatopia.50megs.com
http:harmoniccontinuum.50megs.com

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9/11 Presentation, Oakland CA

Abraxas2k12 — Sun, 05 Mar 2006 20:25:59 GMT

For those in the Bay Area, there will be a lecture in Oakland on March 30th 2006:
Lecture: "9/11: The Myth & the Reality"
by Dr. David Ray Griffin
http://www.ScholarsFor911Truth.org/
7-9:00PM, Grand Lake Theater, 3200 Grand Avenue, Oakland

Other 9/11 events and details:
http://www.communitycurrency.org/events.html

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My Lecture and Documentary Collection

Abraxas2k12 — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:13:43 GMT

Thanks to the wonders of the internet and BitTorrent, over the last year I have acquired over 125 various documentaries and lectures.

The topics include:
General Politics
9/11
Alex Jones
Banking and Finance
The CIA
"Drug" Related
Energy Systems
Health
Nazis
Chemtrails
Jordan Maxwell
David Icke
and "Beyond"

I'd like to spread this information to anyone interested, and have started a tribe to help facilitate that. The tribe page displays the current list of presentations I have available. C'mon over and check it out.

http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker

And if you've seen any of the videos and would prefer to discuss them here, that would be great as well!

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Space exploration or exploitation...

Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:51:27 GMT

The whole sending up an unprepared ship into space, what a flippin' joke. We were supposed to get caught up in the drame and see that we SHOULD have confidence in our space program, since they can repair problems out in space. WHY, the necessity to send it up when they knew it still had issues?Answer: To create a faith in our space program, so we will be more willing to give to explore regions unknown, when in actuality, it is just more money to hoard or to use on spying from space. Spare me the drama, already, and just tell me that a hammer costs $200 as it is vacuum packed, so you can get your greedy hands on my money.
Shadow Walker

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What the hell is this?

Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:59:54 GMT

http://www.weather.com/maps/maptype/satelliteworld/atlanticoceansatellite_large_animated.html
Put the map in motion and take a look at the "missile" or what not headed at the island chain underneath Haiti. It appears to come from the East out of a storm, BUT pay attention to the decrease in size, as if it cane from above at an angle and then reduces in size on its way down, until impact.
Flippin weird. Wonder if we'll hear about this. Anyone know if any space garbage was coming down in the past 24 hours?
+SW->

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Flu Beginnings?

Carol — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:51:58 GMT

First there was this story:

news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051...s_nm/flu_dc

Scientists resurrect 1918 flu, study deadliness Wed Oct 5, 1:25 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Scientists who resurrected the 1918 "Spanish flu" virus that killed as many as 50 million people said on Wednesday they are beginning to understand why it caused such a deadly pandemic and say it could happen again.

They have begun comparing the genetic mutations in the 1918 flu to those being seen in the H5N1 avian flu virus killing tens of millions of poultry and some people in Asia, in the hope of being able to predict and perhaps even prevent a similar pandemic.

"We felt we had to recreate the virus and run these experiments to understand the biological properties that made the 1918 virus so exceptionally deadly," said Terrence Tumpey of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, who helped write the reports published jointly this week in the journals Nature and Science.

The experiment, in which the virus was recreated employing a process called reverse genetics using preserved samples of the 1918 virus, allowed the researchers to test it in the laboratory and in several animals.

It will help answer important questions, said Dr. Jeffery Taubenberger of the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Rockville, Maryland.

"How did the virus get into humans and how did the pandemic start? Second is to understand how this particular virus was so virulent," Taubenberger told reporters in a telephone briefing.

"What can we learn from the lessons of 1918 to prepare for and mitigate against a future influenza pandemic?" he asked.

Drugs and vaccines could be designed to target the mutations found in the research, Taubenberger said.

Taubenberger's team used pieces of virus taken from preserved samples from 1918 victims, as well as from the corpse of a victim dug up from a frozen grave in Alaska in 1998.

BROUGHT VIRUS BACK TO LIFE

They used these pieces to make a replica of the 1918 virus, and brought it back to "life" -- viruses are not truly alive like other microbes -- by combining it with modern influenza virus pieces and growing it in bacteria.
"We now think that the best interpretation of the data available to us is that the 1918 virus was an entirely avian-like virus that adapted to humans," Taubenberger said.
This, he said, was different from the two other 20th century flu pandemics, in 1958 and 1967, in which different flu viruses actually swapped genes to become especially virulent. "It suggests that pandemics can form in more than one way," Taubenberger said.
There were several changes in each gene of the 1918 flu, Taubenberger said. The H5N1 flu is beginning to show some of the same changes, he said, but appears to be early on in the process.
The findings reinforce the fears of health officials about H5N1 avian flu, which now does not easily infect humans but which has killed more than 60 people in four Asian nations. It will take only a few mutations for a virus that has killed tens of millions of birds to become just as infectious and deadly in people.
But now the scientists are beginning to understand what the mutations are and perhaps start work on drugs and vaccines that can fight them.
"We identified a number of virus proteins that were essential for the development of severe pulmonary (lung) disease," Tumpey said.
In particular, he said, a protein called hemagglutinin -- the "H" in flu names -- was key. When the 1918 hemagglutinin was replaced with a modern influenza hemagglutinin, the resulting virus was not very deadly at all.
Also, another protein called neuraminidase was mutated in the 1918 virus in such a way that it could replicate itself under unusual conditions, perhaps deeper in the lung than other flu viruses. Neuraminidase is another key flu gene that makes up the "N" in flu designations.
The 1918 flu was an H1N1 flu and very different from H5N1, the researchers stress. They also said there was no danger to the public from their experiments, which are conducted in biosafety level 3 labs designed to contain the virus.
And today's human flu viruses are all descendants of the 1918 flu, which means people have some immunity to them, CDC director Dr. Julie Gerberding said. What is frightening about H5N1 is that people do not have any immunity to it.
If not H5N1, then some other influenza virus is certain to cause a pandemic that could be much worse than the 1918 flu, Gerberding said.
"Most experts agree it is not a question of if -- it is a question of when," she said.
"This important science creates new information and new clues that does help us prepare for the pandemic."
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Then there was this story and what is really creepy, is they said just now on my local Sacramento news, that what this plane was carring, was the FLU VIRUS but that it was "destroyed" on impact.

calsun.canoe.ca/News/Natio...38-sun.html

Pilot killed in Winnipeg plane crash
By SUN MEDIA

WINNIPEG -- A female pilot died early yesterday when her single-engine cargo plane crash-landed on a railway track.
The plane -- a single-engine Cessna 208 carrying freight for FedEx -- crashed just before 6 a.m., avoiding a nearby Masonic temple and high-rise apartment blocks.
Witness Trevor Mueller saw the plane pass overhead coming from the east.
He said the craft wobbled, then slammed into the west shore of the river.
"I could see its control lights and hear its engine. I saw a sudden flutter. It looked like a bobble in its flight path. I knew something was up," said Mueller.
Moments later, the plane crashed and sent a ball of flames 20 feet into the air, witnesses said.
Sources identified the pilot as Nancy Chase Allen, 49.
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Found a link:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/12836481.htm
Plane carrying viruses crashes in Canada
Associated Press
WINNIPEG, Manitoba - A cargo plane carrying small amounts of flu virus crashed on railway tracks near Winnipeg's city center Thursday, killing the pilot but missing buildings and vehicles, authorities said.
The research samples of frozen influenza and herpes viruses were destroyed in the crash and ensuing fire along with other freight, Federal Express spokeswoman Karen Cooper said.
She said the Cessna 208 was owned by Morningstar Air Express of Edmonton and was under contract to FedEx.
Morningstar spokesman Don Boettcher didn't immediately identify the woman piloting the aircraft. "She'd been with us for about five years," he said, without providing further details.
The plane took off from the Winnipeg airport en route to Thunder Bay, Ontario, at about 5:45 a.m. and traveled about four miles southeast of the airport before it requested a return, Transportation Safety Board investigator David Ross said.
"The aircraft then descended below radar coverage and contact was lost with the aircraft," Ross said.
"It has crashed on railway tracks and does not appear to have collided with any other objects, houses or cars," police Sgt. Shelly Glover said.
Winnipeg police spokeswoman Carolyn Kwiatek said there was no damage to the surrounding area from the fire. The crash did tie up traffic on nearby streets during the morning rush, but no accidents or injuries resulted.
In its cargo were six vials of virus samples being sent to Thunder Bay for research, Cooper said.
Although the samples were labeled dangerous goods, they weren't considered hazardous at the crash site since all the cargo was destroyed in the blaze, Cooper said.
Police Sgt. Kelly Dennison said weather may have been a factor. Reports suggested light snow and mist in the area, temperatures near the freezing mark, moderate winds and about four miles of visibility.
Ross said the plane probably wasn't carrying a flight data recorder.

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$110 Billion+: Can we just give them $75, 000 checks?

Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:33:57 GMT

At least, it would guarantee that the money goes to the right people!
$110 Billion at last count to "rebuild" New Orleans and Bush will want more. Take that # and divide it by how many people were to be evacuated (1.5 million)and you come up with $73,333. What a great deal! Do you think those people will ever see much of that cash? Are you buying the newest propaganda of Bush changing his ways? What a great speech at the U.N. that all should be forgiven of their past debts. The USA forgives these minimal nations debts and then we turn around and expect the same in return. Does this mean that China is supposed to let go of the 12-15% they own of the USA in debts? It wasn't that great of a speech. The reality is that we owe more than any other nation, last time I checked, and Bush is tring to get forgiveness for his overspending. Think it will play through? LOL
As for New Orleans...Yeah, those homeless will get cheapo mobile homes (tornado magnets) and will get a bit of cash, but you can bet that tons of that money will be diverted! We'll probably see a new mega government agency going into New Orleans too. Wonder why Bush was smiling during the his most recent speech? Think of how much money can be diverted on catastrophy relief. The general public likes to help others, so the money spent on "relief" isn't going to be written down for all to see, other than a few general numbers to make it look good. Different day, same President!
Shadow Walker

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Marilyn Monroe unplugged

Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:14:11 GMT

http://ww1.mid-day.com/news/world/2005/august/116601.htm

Marilyn Monroe unplugged
By: Khalid A-H Ansari
August 19, 2005
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Vancouver, Canada: The tempestuous life and times of Marilyn Monroe, the quintessential sex goddess, who died 62 years and 14 days ago — to the day — have been shrouded in mystery.

Her sexual encounters with president John F Kennedy, her failed marriages to playwright Arthur Miller and baseball superstar Joe di Maggio, her sexual encounter with Joan Crawford, relationships with Frank Sinatra and Lawrence Olivier, her yearning to be taken seriously as an actress and, most of all, the curious circumstances surrounding her tragic death have invested her persona with an aura of mystique that refuses to die with the passage of time.

New light has been shed on the Oscar-winning actress’ state of mind shortly before her death — of acute barbiturate poisoning according to the original 1962 autopsy — following the publication of transcripts of tapes in the Los Angeles Times newspaper on her recent death anniversary.

Marilyn Monroe apparently made the tapes for her psychiatrist Dr Ralph Greenson, who professedly played them for former prosecutor John Miner, who attended Monroe’s autopsy and helped to investigate her death.

Eighty-six-year-old prosecutor Miner says he made “extensive” and “nearly verbatim” notes on the tapes after promising never to publicise their contents.

However, Miner broke his promise when Dr Greenson died and biographers of the legendary actress implicated the psychiatrist in her death.

In the tapes, Marilyn Monroe, who played the stereotype dumb blonde as no other, says she won an Oscar for faking orgasms, that she enjoyed enemas and pledged to throw all her pills in the toilet.

Monroe is believed to have had an affair with President John F Kennedy at the time of the recording, a rumour said to have been fuelled by her famous steamy rendition of “Happy Birthday” in his honour.

The tapes show Monroe had “very specific plans for her future” and, therefore, could not have been suicidal.

Marilyn Monroe uses the technique of free association, used by James Joyce in his seminal book Ulysses, on the advice of her psychiatrist, causing the actress to warn: “You will hear a lot of bad language.”

Extracts of Monroe’s thoughts on Kennedy and Clark Gable have already been published. However, her feelings for her ex-husbands, her friendship with Frank Sinatra and suspicions about Eunice Murray, the housekeeper, who discovered her naked body, have been revealed for the first time.

Marilyn Monroe’s candid confessions from the couch shed light on her labyrinthine inner self. Excerpts are being reproduced to enable a better understanding of the misunderstood tragic sex icon. Readers with prudish sensibilities are advised to switch off — post haste!

On Clark Gable

In the kissing scenes, I kissed him with real affection. I didn’t want to go to bed with him, but I wanted him to know how much I liked and appreciated him. He told me he had been a hunter for a long time, but he had decided not to kill animals. He said if he had children, he would teach them to hunt with a camera instead of a gun.

When I came back from a day off the set, he patted my a** and told me if I didn’t behave myself he would give me a good spanking.

I looked him in the eye and said, “Don’t tempt me”. He burst out laughing so loud he was tearing.

Because of his performance I have seen Gone With The Wind over and over again. He was perfect. All right, that was a long time ago. I must have been about 13. I have never seen a man who was as romantic as he was in that picture.

It was different when I got to know him. Then I wanted him to be my father. I wouldn’t care if he spanked me as long as he made up for it by hugging me and telling me I was daddy’s little girl and he loved me. Of course that’s fantasy.

On orgasms

What I told you when I first became your patient is true. I had never had an orgasm. I well remember you said an orgasm happens in the mind, not the genitals.

You said there was an obstacle in my mind that prevented me from having an orgasm; that it was something that happened early in my life about which I felt so guilty that I did not deserve to have the greatest pleasure there is; that it had something to do with something sexual that was very wrong, but my pleasure from getting pleasure from it caused my guilt.

That it was buried in my subconscious. Through analysis we would bring it to my conscious mind where we could get to the guilt and free me to be orgasmic.

Well, we sure worked it and it got nowhere. I’d go home and cry and vomit from the frustration. Then you said for the orgasm problem we would try a different approach.

That you would tell me how to stimulate myself, that when I did exactly what you told me to do I would have an orgasm and that after I did it to myself and felt what it was, I would have orgasms with lovers.

What a difference a word makes. You said I would, not I could.

Bless you doctor. What you say is gospel to me. By now I’ve had lots of orgasms. Not only one, but two and three with a man who takes his time.

I never cried as hard as I did after my first orgasm. It was because of the years I had never had an orgasm. What wasted years. How can I describe to you, a man, what an orgasm feels like to a woman. I’ll try.

Think of a light fixture with a rheostat control. As you slowly turn it on, the bulb begins to get bright, and then brighter and brighter and finally in a blinding flash is fully lit. As you turn it off it gradually becomes dimmer and at last goes out.

Speaking of Oscars, I would win overwhelmingly if the Academy gave Oscars for faking orgasms. I have done some of my best acting convincing my partners I was in the throes of ecstasy.

On Joan Crawford

Oh yes, Crawford. We went to Joan’s bedroom. Crawford had a gigantic orgasm and shrieked like a maniac.

Next time I met Crawford she wanted another round. I told her straight I didn’t much enjoy doing it with a woman. After I turned her down she became spiteful.

An English poet best describes it, “Heaven hath no rage like love to hatred turned: Nor Hell a fury like a woman scorned.”

Most people credit that to Shakespeare. William Congreve is the author. That’s me. Marilyn Monroe, the classical scholar.

About enemas

But doctor. I don’t understand this big taboo about enemas. Most of the actresses I know use them, even some who won’t admit it. Mae West told me she is given an enema every day and she has at least one orgasm a day. Mae says her enemas and orgasms will keep her young until she is 100.

Peter Crawford says the Queen and noblemen of the court of Louis XIV were give frequent enemas by special servants called apothecaries. The purpose was to give them peaches and cream complexions. Something about intestinal toxins getting into your blood. So there you are. Those ladies were doing the intelligent thing.

Yes. I enjoy enemas, so what!

On growing old

I stood naked in front of my full-length mirror for a long time yesterday. I was all made up with my hair done. What did I see? My breasts are beginning to sag a bit. My waist isn’t bad. My ass is what it should be, the best there is. Legs, knees and ankles still shapely. And my feet are not too big. Ok, Marilyn, you have it all there. It is decision time.

On the Kennedys

Marilyn Monroe is a soldier. Her commander in chief is the greatest and most powerful man in the world. The first duty of a soldier is to obey her commander in chief.

He says, “Do this”, you do this. He says, “Do that”. You do that.

This man is going to change our country. No I am not talking Utopia — that’s illusion, but he will transform America today like FDR (F D Roosevelt) did in the 30s.

And he’ll do for the world what he’ll do for America — transform it for the better. I tell you doctor, when he has finished his achievements he will take his place with Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and FDR as one of our greatest presidents. As long as I have memory, I have John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

I’m glad he has Bobby. It's like the navy. The president is the captain and Bobby is his executive officer.

But Bobby, doctor, what should I do about Bobby? As you see there is no room in my life for him. I guess I don’t have the courage to face up to it and hurt him.

I think what’s happened with Bobby is that he has stopped having good sex with his wife for some time. Well when he starts having sex with the body all men want, his Catholic morality has to find a way to justify cheating his wife. So love becomes his excuse. And if you love enough, you can’t help it and you can’t be blamed.

All right, doctor, that’s Marilyn Monroe’s analysis of Bobby’s love for me.”

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EM weapon lowdown

ionamiller — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:42:02 GMT

This is a long article in full that prints to 9 pages - follow the prompts - but VERY pertinent to the entire world! And once again I state categorically that there is no such thing as a non-lethal EMF directed energy weapon! Around the world this is a covert chapter in USA's long history of targeted casualties of torture and terror as many people can testify, including lots of Australians!

Sharon Weinberger is writing a book about the Pentagon and fringe science, to be published by Nation Books next year.
Betty
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/23/AR2005082301227.html
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Xtreme Defense
Washington Post August 28, 2005
By Sharon Weinberger

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"This is very clandestine," Pete Bitar whispered, as his red Dodge Caravan idled in the parking lot of a Burger King near Fort Belvoir. "They called last week, and they wanted delivery this week."

The procurement order had gone through so quickly that the Indiana-based Bitar, who was in town for a conference, agreed to make his final delivery at the Burger King to avoid the hassle of getting onto the Virginia Army base.

* Since when are military arms sales conducted in the parking lots of fast food outlets?

Gibbs funds other offbeat projects, such as Medusa, an attempt to develop a weapon that uses low-power microwaves -- believed to cause an audible buzzing in subjects' heads -- to make people think God is speaking to them. Another such weapon would use beams of energy to make people dizzy and lose their balance.

But ideas are what Bitar overflows with. His latest is to use ultrasonic waves in the dazzler not to just blind enemies, but also to convey messages into their heads, similar to Gibbs's Medusa project. Hearing voices from God is a "big thing" in Arab culture, according to Bitar. "We flash-blind them. And, while their eyes are shut, you could send a recorded message or deep guttural voice that echoes in the inside of their head. They're looking around, 'Hey, did you hear that?'''

* That or something like it has been around and in use upon American experimentees for decades. It just hasn't been declassified (or believed by most of you). Think not? Think again.

Bitar laughed. "That's the psych warfare side of this thing."

"I mean, this whole war on terror, that's exactly what we have to do. We have to be able to minimize our collateral damage because, frankly, we can't afford for the whole world to hate us for very long."

* So the solution is to invent super weapons and to throw them at the world and keep this nation safe by threat of force? Brilliant. Apparently, noone in military circles ever thinks to wonder why the 'whole world' hates us so. After having been experimented upon for years with technologies like these, quite a few American citizens who are targeted individuals (TIs) are beginning to feel the same way. The rest of blissfully ignorant America doesn't seem to realize that one alternate meaning for 'non-lethal' is 'deniable in application'. If you or someone you love were being hit with the Medusa technology or something like it, just exactly how would you prove it or convince others of the fact of it? The answer is - you could not. Think not? Think again.

You might think that psychiatristy and psychology professionals would be in the best position to evaluate when and if a given citizen, complaining emphatically about such tortures, is relating an actual reality. But in practice, just the opposite is true. Shrinks, blinded by their own arrogance and belief in the infallibility of their opinions, are usually the LAST to realize the truth. After all, psychology/psychiatry, of all the sciences, has the lowest standard of proof and is the ONLY science in which a degreed professional can rub his chin thoughtfully, come up with an appropriate sounding label and gift a complainant with a false diagnosis, adding insult to injury. Think not? Think again.

His office helped develop the Active Denial System, a weapon that uses millimeter waves -- a supercharged version of microwaves -- to heat up the skin's nerve endings, creating a burning sensation similar to touching a 100-watt light bulb. Except the beam, while painful, does not actually burn the skin.

The weapon was only recently declassified.

The point, he continued, is not to hurt someone, but simply to force a particular action, or to condition a response.

"Sort of like Pavlov's dogs," interrupted the enthusiastic Raytheon vendor.

Comparing humans to dogs who salivate on command didn't seem to sit well with Karcher, who winced.

* That's frequently what TIs are finding. Burned, shocked, sleep-deprived, mocked, ridiculed relentlessly for years at a time within their homes, the workplace and elsewhere without the slightest chance at a fair self defense or due process. Think it's not happening? Think again.

He noted a military officer who built a Tesla coil weapon, claiming to have tested it by shooting it "into the grille of an annoying rude driver in a traffic jam."

"It's taking a disturbing turn," Diels said with a sigh. "I feel a little bit like the German scientists of the Third Reich, who have no option but to do this research because that's what the government funds."

What's wrong with the idea of a stun gun? "This nonlethal technology, I mean, aimed at electrocuting a crowd of protesters?" he said. "That's not really appetizing, I must say."

* To prevent public outcry and insure funding, that's what the public is sold on time and again so that they will get a soft fuzzy feeling, thinking that new ways to be more humane in war and crowd control are being developed. Quite the opposite is true in most cases. In fact, the number of innocent American citizens being hit with the Medusa technology or something like it, for example, VASTLY outnumbers any individuals hit with it in crowd control (like the Greenham Common protestors) and warfare situations. Those who think they know something about the actual reality, in order to convince them to shut up, ask no questions and join in with the 'fun', are told that these things are only used in America upon terrorists and criminals, which is a lie. But true or not, everyone is due equal protection under the law, not just you and those dear to you. Think its not true? Think again.

"It's kind of weird, especially because when it comes to weapons, you'd rather arm your own country than someone else," he said.

But he shrugged and added, "A customer is a customer."

* Even private citizens are getting their hands on some of these technologies (and using them on their neighbors). Think it's not true? Think again.

"We haven't done human testing," Bitar said.

"Yeah, not officially," Bitar said with a sly smile. He would not elaborate on any unofficial testing.

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