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9/11 Conspiracy Nuts Check out what gasoline fire can do to concrete & steel

tonytohono — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:29:51 GMT

So you people who say that jet fuel can't melt steel and that the twin towers came down because of explosives? Uh huh. Come over to the Bay Area and see what a fuel truck can do to a freeway. That's burn it until the steel melts and the overpass falls down. THROUGH concrete.

So much for the rumors that jet fuel (which burns hotter than regular gas) can't melt steel I beams.

Oh but wait. This is probably part of hte cover up isn't it? Yeah right.

Sheesh.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nwzchik/detail?blogid=32&entry_id=15951

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The ole looking for water story, eh? I DON'T BUY IT !

jeff — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:36:32 GMT

I have a strong feeling water, and or vapor is not at all what NASA is up to. Sounds to me like they are trying to alter the distance the moon is from earth. Laws of gravity say the moon drifts ever so slightly away from us. Maybe the genius' at NASA think that is why we are having so many natural disasters currently, and in the recent past. I personally think they could have come up with a better excuse , WATER, pfft !

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alehah

colocho — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:25:10 GMT

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Deborah J. Palfrey

marvindublin — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:56:50 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVH0RxgsDM4 - Just Another Suicide?

And Gary? Danny Cassolaro? Jim Keith? Etc........

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An independent investigation of 9/11 becomes possible NOW!

Andre — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:15:47 GMT

In NYC an independent investigation is now close to become reality.
Please help:
(more than 70.000 New Yorkers signed already)
http://www.nyccan.org/

A very interesting interview you can hear here:
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article23122.htm

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Bartcop.com on The New American Dream

mike — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:48:58 GMT

http://www.newamericandream.net/index.html

The New American Dream

Feature Interview
Weekend
April 18

Bartcop.com's Terry Coppage, from Tulsa:

"Well, as you might know, I've got a smart mouth, always had a smart mouth.

And in 1993 my boss said, 'Bart, you ought to try this Internet thing, it's brand-new.' "

Poetry:
by Doug Draime
by Del "Abe" Jones

Columns:
A Progressive Pondering Healthcare — Joe Mayer of Rochester, Minnesota
Who's Killing Americans? Is it Dick Cheney? — Jim Fetzer, of Duluth, Minnesota

Political Art by Ben Heine of Brussels

and some other stuff ....

Thanks for stopping by.

The Dream Team
http://www.newamericandream.net/index.html

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Favourite conspiracy?

bobs — Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:03:58 GMT

I've always been fascinated by the Roswell story ( amongst others). Maybe because of it's fantastic nature just grips the imagination. But also the more relevant stories such as the reasons given for the war in Iraq, the assasination of Kennedy, or the stories surrounding the death of Diana.

Which are the stories which have caught your imagination?

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Do you know of any web sites, that should be on our list?

Leslee — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:40:37 GMT

Hi Gang. I have started a tribe that is simply a list of must see web sites that powerful people hope we will never see. Sites about corporate corruption, government corruption, Rip offs and sleazy business practices, important documentaries on line and access to information you won't find on the 6:00 news.

If you know of any sites, you think should be on the list, please post it here.
http://tribes.tribe.net/importantwebsites

Thanks every body. I am look forward to seeing what interesting sites you post.

Leslee

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The World NEED's To Know The Truth!

mike — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:57:36 GMT

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/main.htm
Watch and learn the truth, or history will repeat it.

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The Underlying Politics of 9-11

Sweep — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:41:04 GMT

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3833814796600268367&hl=en-CA

For those who want some more 9-11 info.....Ralph Shoenman speaking for an hour....this guy looks a bit draconian but has a fervor and good info....

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Edgar Mitchell : "...I know for sure we're not alone... "

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:49:29 GMT

Online Joan d'Arc article entitled Official UFO Disclosure and Darwinian Evolution

at

www.ufodigest.com

Please post far and wide.

Official UFO Disclosure and
Darwinian Evolution
by Joan d'Arc

Posted: 14:30 July 24, 2008 - UPDATED: July 29, 2008

July 23, 2008 was an historic day! I awoke to hear on the Internet an astounding interview on Kerrang Radio (UK) with Astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who announced matter of factly, "yes, we have been visited." Did this sudden announcement signal the beginning of Official UFO Disclosure? I transcribed much of the conversation wherein Edgar Mitchell finally briefed us all. www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/6168/

The radio announcer asked Dr. Mitchell, "Are we alone in the Universe?" to which he responded, "Oh, I know for sure we're not alone in the Universe." The radio announcer expressed his shock at this disclosure and wondered if Mitchell was "pulling his leg" with "astronaut humor." Mitchell assured him the Roswell crash was real, and a number of contacts are real and ongoing. "Why is it being covered up?" he asked. The U.S. chose to do this after World War II, explained Mitchell, but it's starting to open up now in the international press. Mitchell also discussed the Catholic Church's recent press releases that we are not alone in the Universe. He explained that the amount of covert attempts to cover-up and the amount of disinformation is decreasing. Mitchell stated, "there's more nonsense out there about this than is real, but it IS a real phenomenon. … Some of us are privileged enough to have been briefed on some of it." He stated, "We're not alone in the Universe. We have been visited."

Dr. Mitchell went on to briefly discuss Roswell in 1947, saying he grew up in Roswell and it was a real extraterrestrial crash there. He admitted involvement in intelligence and military circles, and UFO committees and groups, and admitted it has been "well covered up in the past sixty years." He claimed there has been "quite a bit of contact" and that "contact is real and ongoing," but that he does not know where the visitors are from. He admitted to "back-engineering" of spacecraft, but claimed the "homegrown" vehicles "are not as sophisticated as what the visitors have." When asked if there will be an actual disclosure this year, Mitchell said there are serious organizations moving toward disclosure, and that it has already begun, since the Belgian, French, Brazilian and Mexican governments have opened their files and some British files were recently released. He indicated, "I think we're heading toward serious disclosure, but I can't say how fast." He said "public acceptance is increasing and disinformation seems to be decreasing." When asked "what will the reaction be?" he said it's "ho-hum so what's new?" and that "well over 70% of people accept it as fact."

"Do others involved in the moon landings know about this?" Mitchell responded, "Some of them do." When asked if the visitor's intent is hostile or peaceful, Mitchell stated, "It's pretty obvious that if it were hostile we'd have been gone by now. Or could have been. We had no defense if that's what their real intent was." When asked what they look like, he claimed there to be many groups, but described only one of them, "You've seen some of the pictures … little people that look strange to us. … pretty accurate." Finally, when asked if he was worried for his own safety, Mitchell replied, "Oh no. They're not knocking anybody off for that anymore."

Good News For Modern Man?

Mitchell indicated that over 70 percent of people accept extraterrestrial visitation as fact. I find that number to be unbelievably large. He perhaps is referring to globally, not in the U.S. If true, I believe Mitchell underplays the reaction of the remaining 30 percent, who are in profound denial in an isolated, outback cosmos—namely the scientific "Darwinists." He underplays the effect on science—a "naturalist" paradigm unbelievably rigid in its fundamentalist and insular premise that "intelligent" life is Earth-based only.

Is Official UFO Disclosure good news for modern man? Well, it is and, then again, it isn't. The effect on Darwinian evolution will be profound. This is what the cover-up is and has been all about. After all science is not about flexibility but is about security; and the alarm for this potential breach in security was pushed by NASA in 1960, when it tasked the Brookings Institute to think through the implications of the possible discovery of artifacts on the moon or other planets on which we may land or send probes.

The Brookings Study was concerned about the impact of extraterrestrial intelligence (ETI) on religion, but it also feared the impact on science. In part, the Brookings Study noted that "scientists and engineers might be the most devastated by the discovery of relatively superior creatures, since these professions are most clearly associated with mastery of nature." The study also noted, "Advanced understanding of nature might vitiate all our theories."

Darwinian evolution epitomizes mankind's mastery over nature. Indeed, as I have noted in my book, Space Travelers and the Genesis of the Human Form, the evolution story dramatizes the "natural" transfiguration of mankind through a linear procession of metamorphoses that eventually separate him from the animals of his ancestry. Evolution is Western man's totem; essentially, it represents mastery over our own nature. Since the entire realm of modern biology and chemistry is based on the Darwinian paradigm, the discovery, or should I say, the official disclosure, of extraterrestrial intelligence would completely shatter the Darwinian mythology of humanity's accidental climb out of the muck of our local habitat Earth.

From the perspective of Darwinian theory, mankind may be seen as the winner of a preposterous survival lottery which, we are told, given the incredible odds should not have occurred even once. Thus, if the humanoid form evolved from the great ape lineage on planet Earth, the mathematical odds are incredibly against the possibility of that same chain of random and incremental steps, contingent upon an interplay with a similar biological environment, occurring elsewhere in the Universe. Therefore, the assumptions of Darwinian evolution presuppose the humanoid form to be an entirely Earth-based phenomenon.

Darwinian evolution is a metaphysical genesis tale of life on Earth. In her book Evolution as a Religion, philosopher Mary Midgley argued that "evolution is not just an inert piece of theoretical science," but is also "a powerful folk tale about human origins." It must be pointed out that creationism and evolutionism have one main factor in agreement: they are both Earth-centric genesis tales. Both oppose the idea of intelligence at large in the Universe, including the idea of space travelers. In both theories, the Earth is the center of the Universe and WE are IT!

It must also be understood that the theory of evolution essentially views the human or humanoid form as merely an accident in a chain of accidents. For instance, Stephen Jay Gould argued that the evolution of the human form is not a "repeatable occurrence." In the Journal of British Interplanetary Society (1992), E.J. Coffey also argued that "the survivors resemble the winners of a lottery rather than creatures better designed than the unlucky majority who do not survive."

For quite the same reasons as above, British astronomer, Sir Fred Hoyle, proponent of the Modern Theory of Panspermia, mathematically dismissed the chance of Darwinian evolution being an actual occurrence, arguing that "even if the whole Universe consisted of organic soup ... the chance of producing merely the basic enzymes of life by random processes without intelligent direction would be about 1 over a 1 with 40,000 zeros after it; a probability too small to imagine." Hoyle concluded that "Darwinian evolution is most unlikely to get even one polypeptide sequence right, let alone the thousands on which living cells depend for survival."

Given that there are trillions of different kinds of cells in the body, all in delicate balance with each other, each of these varied cellular structures would also have to develop by chance. In a Times-Advocate interview in December 1982, Hoyle declared that this mathematical impossibility is well known to scientists, yet nobody seems willing to "blow the whistle" on the absurdity of Darwinian theory. Hoyle claims "most scientists still cling to Darwinism because of its grip on the educational system," and because they don't want to be branded as "heretics." Let's hope this allegation is at least partially true.

Others have "done the math" as well. British molecular biologist Francis Crick, who received the 1962 Nobel Prize for the discovery of the double helix structure of DNA, wondered if we weren't from around here. After discovering the astonishingly huge and complex information storage capacity of the DNA molecule (humans have three billion coding letters in each nucleus), Crick could not imagine any conditions under which this information vehicle could have evolved from non-living chemicals. He argued that since the earth has too short a history for life to have developed here, it must have developed on another planet in a solar system several billion years older than ours.

Crick's aversion to religion led him and Leslie Orgel, in 1973, to put forth the theory of Directed Panspermia. To get around the idea of God, Crick proposed that the primordial seeds of life were shipped to earth in spaceships billions of years ago by intelligent beings. After proposing this idea, Crick was left in the predicament of explaining the origin of the ET beings, and finally had to acknowledge the paucity of the idea, saying, "Every time I write a paper on the origin of life, I swear I will never write another one, because there is too much speculation running after too few facts." (Life Itself, 1981)

Although an atheist, Crick was quoted as saying, "An honest man, armed with the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense the origin of life appears to be almost a miracle." William Hamilton in his essay "Astrogenesis" suggests, "The real paradigm shift is to consider that the Universe is a life-producing nursery and that the genesis and evolution of life is not earth-centered but rather is distributed among the stars of the galaxies."

In his book The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, Thomas Kuhn defines a scientific revolution as a "non-cumulative developmental episode" whereby an older paradigm is replaced in whole or in part by an "incompatible new one." Such scientific revolutions begin with a growing sense that "an existing paradigm has ceased to function adequately in the exploration of an aspect of nature." The emergence of new theories is usually preceded by a period of "pronounced professional insecurity," since it involves large-scale paradigm destruction. Kuhn explains, under normal rules a scientific theory "is declared invalid only if an alternative candidate is available to take its place."

Unfortunately for them, academia and its inflexible materialist skeptics have persistently disallowed any alternative candidates from the Vitalist arena to impose on their Nature party: such as Lovelock and Margulis's Gaia Theory (in this case they made it conform to Naturalism before allowing a baby toe in); Rupert Sheldrake's Theory of Formative Causation (they absolutely spit on the idea of morphogenetic fields); Extraterrestrial theories such as Panspermia, Visitor Genetic Breeding or Planetary Seeding experiments ("little green men" anybody?); the mathematical theories of Intelligent Design ("Creationism in a cheap tuxedo"); and we all know where they stand on the "Super-natural" theory of Creationism (oh well, I say, if it walks like a duck).

Many people I talk to are under the assumption that Darwinism is playfully malleable and open to their mishmash of supernatural ideas. I try to inform them that Darwinian evolution is an all-or-nothing theory; it will not allow inclusion of any Vitalist or Supra-natural process—or, goddess forbid, any anthropomorphism. It is very exacting on that rule. If you are espousing any form of Supernaturalism, you are clearly not a Darwinian. Perhaps you are a Vitalist.

The essential problem is, according to Kuhn, scientists cannot do research in the absence of a controlling and overarching (i.e., tightly closed and uncompromising) paradigm: in this case Naturalism (Materialism) as opposed to Supernaturalism (Vitalism). Under normal circumstances they do not and can not pull the floor out from under themselves by either switching paradigms or allowing an alternative toe in the door. But in the face of Official UFO Disclosure, the door will be blown out for them.

Extraterrestrial space travelers and Darwinian evolution are incompatible! Do not underestimate the reaction from the fundamentalist Scientism camp: the discovery of Extraterrestrial Intelligence, and specifically of the extraterrestrial humanoid form, blows Earth-centric evolutionary biology straight out of the water!

BAM! SPLASH! HIGH AND DRY!

"Pronounced professional insecurity" does not even begin to describe what unbending Darwinists will go through under Official UFO Disclosure, should it actually occur. The Catholic Church has already announced its acceptance of extraterrestrial beinghood. Science has not. It will not be the followers of fundamentalist religions but the followers of rigid, unyielding Scientism who will be in the herd of lemmings headed straight for the edge of the cliff.

Joan d'Arc is the author of Space Travelers and the Genesis of the Human Form, and Phenomenal World, published by The Book Tree (www.thebooktree.com"). She is the co-publisher of Paranoia: The Conspiracy Reader (www.paranoiamagazine.com) and is the founder of the website "BIPED: Beings for Intelligent Purpose in Evolutionary Design" (www.biped.info). She is also the founder of HunterGatheress Journal (www.huntergatheress.com).

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Mainstream U.K. newspaper article about the interview:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1037471/Apollo-14-astronaut-claims-aliens-HAVE-contact--covered-60-years.html

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ENDGAME- ALEX JONES - Blueprint for Global

Hi, Drink Me — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:05:54 GMT

http://vodpod.com/watch/292351-endgame-alex-jones-blueprint-for-global-enslavement

This movie is very long so please don't get discouraged.. it's and excellent watch. Very informative and educational.

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HAARP Update

ionamiller — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:55:10 GMT

Weather Warfare: Beware the US military€ ’²s experiments with climatic
warfare
€ ’±Climatic warfare€ ’² has been excluded from the agenda on climate
change.

by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, December 7, 2007
The Ecologist, December 2007

"HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction, capable of destabilising
agricultural and ecological systems globally."

"€ ’±Climatic warfare€ ’² potentially threatens the future of
humanity, but has casually been excluded from the reports for which the IPCC
received the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize."

Pdf version of article on Weather Warfare by Michel Chossudovsky, The
Ecologist, December 2007 (pdf)

Rarely acknowledged in the debate on global climate change, the
world€ ’²s weather can now be modified as part of a new generation of
sophisticated electromagnetic weapons. Both the US and Russia have developed
capabilities to manipulate the climate for military use.

Environmental modification techniques have been applied by the US
military for more than half a century. US mathematician John von Neumann, in
liaison with the US Department of Defense, started his research on
weather modification in the late 1940s at the height of the Cold War and
foresaw € ’±forms of climatic warfare as yet unimagined€ ’². During
the Vietnam war, cloud-seeding techniques were used, starting in 1967
under Project Popeye, the objective of which was to prolong the monsoon
season and block enemy supply routes along the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

The US military has developed advanced capabilities that enable it
selectively to alter weather patterns. The technology, which is being
perfected under the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP),
is an appendage of the Strategic Defense Initiative € ’¶ € ’±Star
Wars€ ’². From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass
destruction, operating from the outer atmosphere and capable of destabilising
agricultural and ecological systems around the world.

Weather-modification, according to the US Air Force document AF 2025
Final Report, € ’±offers the war fighter a wide range of possible
options to defeat or coerce an adversary€ ’², capabilities, it says, extend
to the triggering of floods, hurricanes, droughts and earthquakes:
€ ’±Weather modification will become a part of domestic and international
security and could be done unilaterally€ ’¥ It could have offensive
and defensive applications and even be used for deterrence purposes. The
ability to generate precipitation, fog and storms on earth or to modify
space weather€ ’¥ and the production of artificial weather all are a
part of an integrated set of [military] technologies.€ ’²

In 1977, an international Convention was ratified by the UN General
Assembly which banned € ’±military or other hostile use of environmental
modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe
effects.€ ’² It defined € ’±environmental modification techniques€ ’² as
€ ’±any technique for changing € ’¶through the deliberate
manipulation of natural processes € ’¶ the dynamics, composition or structure of
the earth, including its biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere and
atmosphere, or of outer space.€ ’²

While the substance of the 1977 Convention was reasserted in the UN
Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) signed at the 1992 Earth
Summit in Rio, debate on weather modification for military use has
become a scientific taboo.

Military analysts are mute on the subject. Meteorologists are not
investigating the matter and environmentalists are focused on greenhouse gas
emissions under the Kyoto Protocol. Neither is the possibility of
climatic or environmental manipulations as part of a military and
intelligence agenda, while tacitly acknowledged, part of the broader debate on
climate change under UN auspices.

The HAARP Programme

Established in 1992, HAARP, based in Gokona, Alaska, is an array of
high-powered antennas that transmit, through high-frequency radio waves,
massive amounts of energy into the ionosphere (the upper layer of the
atmosphere). Their construction was funded by the US Air Force, the US
Navy and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). Operated
jointly by the Air Force Research Laboratory and the Office of Naval
Research, HAARP constitutes a system of powerful antennas capable of
creating € ’±controlled local modifications of the ionosphere€ ’².
According to its official website, www.haarp.alaska.edu , HAARP will be used
€ ’±to induce a small, localized change in ionospheric temperature so
physical reactions can be studied by other instruments located either
at or close to the HAARP site€ ’².

HAARP Program, Alaska

HAARP array of antennas

But Rosalie Bertell, president of the International Institute of
Concern for Public Health, says HAARP operates as € ’±a gigantic heater that
can cause major disruptions in the ionosphere, creating not just
holes, but long incisions in the protective layer that keeps deadly
radiation from bombarding the planet€ ’².

Physicist Dr Bernard Eastlund called it € ’±the largest ionospheric
heater ever built€ ’². HAARP is presented by the US Air Force as a
research programme, but military documents confirm its main objective is to
€ ’±induce ionospheric modifications€ ’² with a view to altering
weather patterns and disrupting communications and radar.

According to a report by the Russian State Duma: € ’±The US plans to
carry out large-scale experiments under the HAARP programme [and] create
weapons capable of breaking radio communication lines and equipment
installed on spaceships and rockets, provoke serious accidents in
electricity networks and in oil and gas pipelines, and have a negative impact
on the mental health of entire regions.€ ’²*

An analysis of statements emanating from the US Air Force points to the
unthinkable: the covert manipulation of weather patterns,
communications and electric power systems as a weapon of global warfare, enabling
the US to disrupt and dominate entire regions. Weather manipulation is
the pre-emptive weapon par excellence. It can be directed against enemy
countries or € ’±friendly nations€ ’² without their knowledge, used
to destabilise economies, ecosystems and agriculture. It can also
trigger havoc in financial and commodity markets. The disruption in
agriculture creates a greater dependency on food aid and imported grain staples
from the US and other Western countries.

HAARP was developed as part of an Anglo-American partnership between
Raytheon Corporation, which owns the HAARP patents, the US Air Force and
British Aerospace Systems (BAES).

The HAARP project is one among several collaborative ventures in
advanced weapons systems between the two defence giants. The HAARP project
was initiated in 1992 by Advanced Power Technologies, Inc. (APTI), a
subsidiary of Atlantic Richfield Corporation (ARCO). APTI (including the
HAARP patents) was sold by ARCO to E-Systems Inc, in 1994. E-Systems, on
contract to the CIA and US Department of Defense, outfitted the
€ ’±Doomsday Plan€ ’², which € ’±allows the President to manage a nuclear
war€ ’².Subsequently acquired by Raytheon Corporation, it is among the
largest intelligence contractors in the World. BAES was involved in the
development of the advanced stage of the HAARP antenna array under a
2004 contract with the Office of Naval Research.

The installation of 132 high frequency transmitters was entrusted by
BAES to its US subsidiary, BAE Systems Inc. The project, according to a
July report in Defense News, was undertaken by BAES€ ’²s Electronic
Warfare division. In September it received DARPA€ ’²s top award for
technical achievement for the design, construction and activation of the
HAARP array of antennas.

The HAARP system is fully operational and in many regards dwarfs
existing conventional and strategic weapons systems. While there is no firm
evidence of its use for military purposes, Air Force documents suggest
HAARP is an integral part of the militarisation of space. One would
expect the antennas already to have been subjected to routine testing.

Under the UNFCCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
has a mandate € ’±to assess scientific, technical and socioeconomic
information relevant for the understanding of climate change€ ’². This
mandate includes environmental warfare. € ’±Geo-engineering€ ’² is
acknowledged, but the underlying military applications are neither the
object of policy analysis or scientific research in the thousands of pages
of IPCC reports and supporting documents, based on the expertise and
input of some 2,500 scientists, policymakers and environmentalists.
€ ’±Climatic warfare€ ’² potentially threatens the future of humanity,
but has casually been excluded from the reports for which the IPCC
received the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.

Archive of Global Research articles on Weather Warfare

Global Research Articles by Michel Chossudovsky

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7561

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The Fourth Dimension

Tue, 08 Aug 2006 00:33:40 GMT

It seems to me that there is a lack of clarity over just what the fourth dimension is. And also on what exactly the Fourth Dimension does. In-fact, on many web-pages that I visit, I find an array of documents that say that the fourth dimension is the fragment of the whole Emotional Plane which is known as the Astral Plane – which it is surely not.

The truth of the make-up of the fourth dimension is veiled in the ‘impossible structures’ of mathematical artists, such as M.C. Escher, and which is quite brilliantly depicted his ‘Day and Night’ illustration which is shown below.

read more at: http://snoedel.punt.nl/TheFourthDimension/

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The Ether

marvindublin — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:24:46 GMT

http://tribes.tribe.net/2crossroadsofreligion2/thread/7500e88a-3c12-4536-82bc-656a71ef95a3

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THE NOTHING / MATRIX HAS YOU

truthgathering — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 03:15:53 GMT

36 hours later .... NO DONATIONS SO FAR

Life is getting tricky again / worse than usual

With no donations, I have to decide whether to
cancel the website, or not be able to eat in a
week's time when my monthly payment is taken
for http://www.worldgathering.net

One reason I feel 'World Gathering' may be worth
pursuing is because two days after launching 'World
Gathering 25/26 August 2007' - on May 1st - the
power of the directed energy attack on me doubled.

This increase in harassment seemed to tell me
that there are things 'they' do not want me to do.
The truth is, though, whenever I do any large
postings on the Internet, the power of the laser,
microwave, pulse, sonic, or whatever it is, increases.

'They' just do not want me to communicate with
many other people.

Why are they worrying?

So far, hardly anyone seems interested in the
World Gathering.

A few weeks ago quite a large number of people
were copying World Gathering posters and banners
onto their websites and blogs. But I didn't really
receive feedback from anyone, saying it’s a great
idea, or promising organisation of a local supporting
event for 25/26 August.

I get a spooky feeling.

I was bankrupted in 2004 by four years of targeting,
24/7, by severe amounts of directed energy (my eyesight
went bad and I could hardly walk on many days). I was
therefore made homeless in 2004 and had my full time
attention on the Internet diverted.

The spooky feeling I get is that the world seems to
have disappeared in the three years I have been pushed
off the Net.

People won't participate.

People won't encourage other people.

People won't give donations.
(In the past three years, I have received three
donations via the Internet ... in that time many
millions of people have benefited from the information
I left on the Net and duplicated at perhaps 200+
other websites.... not a very good 'energy exchange',
is it?)

It feels like 'The Nothing' has rendered people useless.

It looks like people are lost in The Matrix.

I think the massive Chemtrail Spraying has perhaps
made most people even more apathetic than they were
three years ago.

Perhaps that is why the World Gathering 25/26 August
2007 would be important .... to help people waken up
again. And to warn the world about the 'Nothing'
spraying......

As the late Hopi elder Dan Evehema said:
We must unite for our SURVIVAL.

But .................... NO donations so far.

Michael Irving

> World Gathering 25 & 26 August 2007
> http://www.worldgathering.net
> http://www.michael-irving.com
> Mirror websites
>
> 1) Appeal By World-Action / World Gathering
> 2) Words of Inspiration To Change The World
>
> ---------
>
> 1) Appeal By World-Action / World Gathering
>
> WORLD GATHERING NEEDS DONATIONS
> - OR WEBSITE MAY GO
>
> World Gathering Needs Your Help ...
>
> http://www.worldgathering.net/news03.html
>
> I am asking people who have benefited now
> or in the past from inspiration, information
> and events organised through the various
> websites I have had over the years, to make
> a donation to help this effort to assist
> the world keep going.
>
> Can you put in a bit to help?
>
> Then, together we can press on forwards
> to help change the world.
>
> Please go to this webpage:
> http://www.worldgathering.net/news03.html
>
> Please pass this request to your friends who know
> about World-Action, Stop-Chemtrails, World Gathering,
> Inspiring Times, Words Waken World, etc. - thank you
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Sincerely,
> Michael Irving
> World Gathering, World-Action, Stop Chemtrails,
> Inspiring Times, Words Waken World, World-Action 2
> http://www.worldgathering.net
> http://www.michael-irving.com
>
> ---------
>
> 2) Words of Inspiration To Change The World
>
> "We must do what we conceive to be the right
> thing and not bother our heads or burden our
> souls with whether we will be successful.
> Because if we don't do the right thing, we
> will be doing the wrong thing and we will just
> be a part of the disease and not a part of
> the cure." - E. F. Schumacher
>
> "Each of us is put here in this time and this
> place to personally decide the future of humankind.
> Did you think you were put here for something
> less?" - Chief Arvol Looking Horse
>
> "To be yourself, in a world that tries, night
> and day, to make you just like everybody else
> - is to fight the greatest battle there ever
> is to fight, and never stop fighting."
> - e. e. cummings
>
> "We are at the final stages now ... so as our
> prophecy says. Then it must be up to the people
> with pure hearts that will not be afraid to
> help us to fulfil our destiny in peace for
> this world" - Dan Evehema, late Hopi elder
>
> "Learn to listen to the voice of truth which
> is within you and will lead you onto the path
> of evolution. This is our message to you,
> our dear friends. We have watched you growing
> for many years, just as you have watched our
> lights in the sky. You know now that we are
> here and that there are more beings on and
> around your Earth than your scientists care
> to admit. We are deeply concerned about you
> and your path towards the light and we will
> do all that we can to help you."
> --- This is the ending of the 1977 'Voice-Over
> Message' in the UK. Millions of TV viewers
> in southern England heard a voice give this
> message while normal TV pictures were shown.
> TV engineers struggled to stop the audio
> broadcast, but failed. A similar TV voice-over
> happened in the USA within a year or two
> of the above message.
>
> "Our lives begin to end the day we
> become silent about things that matter."
> - Martin Luther King, Jnr
>
> "The most courageous act is still to think
> for yourself. Aloud." - Coco Chanel
>
> "The world is now too dangerous for anything
> less than utopia." - Buckminster Fuller
>
> ---------
>
> WORLD GATHERING NEEDS DONATIONS
> - OR WEBSITE MAY GO
> World Gathering Needs Your Help ...
> http://www.worldgathering.net/news03.html
>
> ---------
>
> World Gathering 25 & 26 August 2007
> http://www.worldgathering.net
> http://www.michael-irving.com
> Mirror websites
>
> Please forward to friends and contacts
> - thank you

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World Gathering - 25 & 26 August 2007

truthgathering — Sat, 26 May 2007 05:36:50 GMT

Here is a good time and place to discuss important matters .....

World Gathering - 25 & 26 August 2007

http://tribes.tribe.net/worldgathering
--------------------------------------------

Please forward to friends, contacts and mailing lists.
---

World Gathering
- 25 & 26 August 2007
- Saturday and Sunday
http://www.worldgathering.net
http://www.michael-irving.com
(These 2 websites are mirror images of each other.)

http://tribes.tribe.net/worldgathering

- WORLD GATHERING 25 & 26 AUGUST 2007
- All Night Gathering On Hilltops Worldwide
- Use Powerful Flashlights To Signal Other Hilltops
- Time For The Gathering - New Dawn Coming
- Truth For The World - Peace For The World
- Global Meetings - Global Powwows
- The Truth Is Coming
- 25 & 26 AUGUST 2007 WORLD GATHERING
- HILLTOPS WORLDWIDE - BE THERE!

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"Whatever you can do, or dream you can do, begin it.
Boldness has genius, power and magic in it." - Goethe
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"A very great vision is needed and the person who
has it must follow it as the eagle seeks the deepest
blue of the sky." - Chief Crazy Horse
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WORLD GATHERING - August 2007
Saturday August 25 and Sunday August 26
Three Events In One .....
(1) Saturday - DAY: Meet with friends and
contacts and discuss the world situation.
(2) Saturday - NIGHT: Meet on a hilltop and
shine a beacon of hope through the night.
(3) Sunday - DAY: Meet with friends and
contacts and discuss the world situation.

The main details for the World Gathering are here:
http://www.worldgathering.net/gathering.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/gathering.html

Arrange Meetings, Powwows, and Hilltop 'Beacon'
vigils for Saturday and Sunday, 25th & 26th August.
Then, send your event details to the email on this page:
http://www.worldgathering.net/contact.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/contact.html

Details of LOCAL 'World Gatherings' will be displayed
under fourteen 'World Regions'; then by Country/Nation;
then by area, state, etc. The main index for the details
of LOCAL 'World Gatherings' is on this webpage:
http://www.worldgathering.net/events.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/events.html

The World Gathering is being launched at the end of
May, 2007, so there may not be many details at our
websites for Local Events until the end of June.

'What should I organise in my area for the World
Gathering?' - Ideas and suggestions on this webpage:
http://www.worldgathering.net/yourevent.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/yourevent.html

Join our Google and/or Yahoo Newsletter lists:
http://groups.google.com/group/worldgathering
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/worldgathering

Discussion and Planning at TRIBE:
http://tribes.tribe.net/worldgathering

Watch a short, 'World Gathering' slideshow video at
either Google Video or YouTube. Search at Google
Video or YouTube for: 'WORLD GATHERING'.

Please help publicise this unusual and unique global
linkup. Print out posters; place a WG banner on your
website; forward our Update mailings to your friends,
contacts, and mailing lists; and tell friends about the
World Gathering video at Google and YouTube.
Ideas and materials for WG promotion here:
http://www.worldgathering.net/publicity.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/publicity.html

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"Use every letter you write, every conversation
you have, every meeting you attend, to express your
fundamental beliefs and dreams. Affirm to others
the vision of the world you want."
- Dr Robert Muller, formerly of the U.N.
------------------
“We are at the final stages now… so as our prophecy
says. Then it must be up to the people with pure hearts
that will not be afraid to help us to fulfil our destiny in
peace for this world.” - Dan Evehema, Hopi Nation
------------------

Additional 'World Gathering' inspiration here:
http://www.worldgathering.net/worldgathering.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/worldgathering.html

- WORLD GATHERING 25 & 26 AUGUST 2007
- All Night Gathering On Hilltops Worldwide
- Use Powerful Flashlights To Signal Other Hilltops
- Time For The Gathering - New Dawn Coming
- Truth For The World - Peace For The World
- Global Meetings - Global Powwows
- The Truth Is Coming
- 25 & 26 AUGUST 2007 WORLD GATHERING
- HILLTOPS WORLDWIDE - BE THERE!

World Gathering
25 & 26 August 2007
http://www.worldgathering.net
http://www.michael-irving.com
(These 2 websites are mirror images of each other.)

http://tribes.tribe.net/worldgathering

Please forward to friends, contacts and mailing lists.

Thank you. World Gathering.

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Wake up Great Britain to the conspiracy hapening around you,Your police force is comiting theft.

lee — Sun, 25 Mar 2007 03:01:22 GMT

Two years ago labour gave the police force the power to take and auction off any vehicle caught on the road without insurance. GOOD i hear you say there only doing it for our benerfit so when that rogue runs into our vehicles we know they are covered. This wouldnt be a problem only within the last two years insurance premiums have nearly doubled so that alot of people have become unable two afford the rates. YOU WORK IT OUT, they also take your vehicle without tax, i bet it wasnt only my reminder that came 3 weeks late from D.V.L.A, why do you think theres been such an amount of police on spot checks lately, especially round the school run times, they say they crush them yet if you scrap a car now the scrapman will give you as much as £80.00 for it, wouldnt think he'd pay with the amount the police are giving him would you. Your car is being stolen from you and then sold with the funds going to the police force in order to pay for it.

Wake up Britain, our familys died in wars to uphold the stadards of britain and to keep it free from bullies, stand up for our own human rghts.

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Diana - Conpiracy or not?

sarah_inc — Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:50:50 GMT

Does anyone really believe that Diana was murdered? If so why do you believe it and who do you think ordered it to be done?

Personally I think it was a terrible accident and, sadly, one that was destined to happen with the press attention she was receiving at the time. However I'm open to what others think ...

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its time to arrest gw bush and dick cheney for treason

michael — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:31:13 GMT

sound crazy? go download 9/11 mysteries demolitions and alex jones video 'Terror Storm' (fully documented)and and watch closely, then tell me what you think,
some facts to ponder;
did you know bush has been threatening members of both houses with arrest and lie detector tests, who leak info about 9/11 facts to press? and who want to investgate 9/11. like the fact bush had prior knowledge of 9/11(multiple warnings)
did you know many of 9/11 terrorists were trained on american military bases? this all is documented in jones documentary 'masters of terror', bush is blocking all investigations of 9/11. why????
also he is a traitor for his signing north american union agreement with leaders of both mexico and canada which dissolves our borders and merges all 3 into one govt. without congressional or voter approval.
he has turned america in to a nazi germany twilight zone (as alex jones puts it)with his patriot act, military commisions act, fema ,nsa, cia, and military spying on american ctizens, and militarizing our police.
he has started a war and killed 1.2 million people on false pretenses, aside over 3000 american soldiers,this is a war crime in itself.
he is getting ready to attack Iran and further deepening the middle east conflict on false pretenses.possibly starting a global war.
that residue of thermate a high temperature column cutting explosive has been found on wtc steel columns.
that many firemen, police and emergency workers are coming forward and speaking out about multiple explosions they heard at wtc that fateful day.
bush has spent over 1.6 bil on fake news reports to media , this is a felony! and he should be arrested on this point alone.and the cia has operatives in all the big media agencies, cnn, nbc, abc, cbs
bush and cheny's families are making billions from war (carlyle group and haliburton)

its time for the bush bootlickers in congress(democrats and republicans alike) to get some intestinal fortitude and arrest this dirty little bastard and wrestle control of our govt back from the executive branch. also it is time for a new investigation of 9/11 with civilian oversight, because congress is too corrupt, and cannot be trusted (except a select few)like ron paul.

i'm pissed off!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael C, Peck

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MRU - beyond MK Ultra

ionamiller — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:39:17 GMT

Been under deep cover at spook central; check out the real Cigarette Man.

http://beyondmkultra.50megs.com

peace in,
Iona
http://ionatopia.50megs.com

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2012 resources?

Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:05:30 GMT

hey... i am looking for a good book or internet resource that pulls together ALL the different elements of the 2012 thing...

i want something that covers everything from the material provided by remotie viewers to the whole daniel pinchbeck quetzcoatl thing... to information provided by mediums and psychics... to the new world order/denver airport/illunimati/freemason conspiracy thing... the whole great big cross-polinated enchilada - people who say it's gonna be a good thing to the idea that it's gonna be a horrible thing...

anybody know a great encyclopedic source for the the 2012 thing?

thanks a bunch!!!

xoxo,
>^..^<
_________________
feralkittycat

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SEX ORGY CONSPIRACY

zargon — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:31:52 GMT

I have reason to believe that aliens are attempting to divert attention away from Kirtland airforce base by staging a huge US sex orgy for xmas eve, shhh don't tell anyone :-)

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I think there's a CONSPIRACY going on to get a flying saucer from Kirtland airforce base New Mecioc

zargon — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:33:50 GMT

For Xmas.... shhhhh don't breathe a word of this to anyone. Especially the F.B.I the C.I.A Mosad KGB or Arnold Shwartznegger. & ors. :-)

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hh

Lorenzo-g — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:31:39 GMT

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7374585792978336967

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Immortality, compassion and love for all those who want to listen

Dr Dominic — Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:08:40 GMT

hello
The first chapter of my book after 25 years of research has within it the keys to IMMORTALITY IN PREPARATION FOR ASCENSION.
FROM CHAPTER ONE TAKE X the healing factor , apply it to the blood , body and brain, this will make the human body all positive and Immortal, once you have read the book , contact me for the 3 ways it will be done…2 slow , 1 on mass.....(via a pyramid using the Sun and Sirius energy on the dog days).... the the pyramids will be opened later on FOR LIGHT WORKERS,I hope you understand what I am saying...................Tell all your light worker friends to get the book as I am a Light Worker myself, who has been presented now with the understandings of immortality ,which I must give to other light workers. This is the information you have to pass on for the good of all light workers.
in the light
Dominic
I recommend my book ORMUS FROM AUTHORHOUSE
www.authorhouse.com/BookStor...alog.aspx
ORMUS, ORME....WHITE GOLD ...The manna, the white powder of gold, is the food, the light, one takes into their body. It is the FOOD OF THE GODS. A modern day Rabbi might tell you that no one has known how to make the manna, the white powder of Gold, since the destruction of the Temple of Solomon. The technique is, supposedly, a lost art or lost knowledge. But others argue that when the high priests left the Temple (when it was destroyed), the took the secret out into the desert and organized a commune called Qumrun. There, they became the Essenes. Eventually, the white powder was used to nourish a woman named Mary, and eventually, she gave birth to a man named Jesus.
These gifts include: perfect telepathy, the ability to know good and evil when it’s present, and to project thoughts into another person’s mind. There is also the ability to levitate, or to walk on water. By excluding all external magnetic fields (including the Earth’s gravity), the white powder of gold takes one beyond the four dimensional space time continuum, and the individual becomes a fifth dimensional being. They can literally think where they would like to be, and go there. They can heal by the laying on of hands, and can cleanse and resurrect the dead within two or three days after they died. They have so much energy that they can literally embrace people and bring light and energy back into them. We the International Order Of Knight Templars have the keys to Immortality.The International Order of Knight Templars has many hidden esoteric keys about ormus , immortality and 2012.
please take a look at these forums
groups.msn.com/KNIGHTSOFC...atsnew.msnw
my book ORMUS , HAS THE KEYS TO IMMORTALITY VEILED IN THE FIRST CHAPTER
www.authorhouse.com/BookStor...Home.aspx

LOVE AND LIGHT
DOMINIC

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Best political multimedia resource on Tribe.net?

Abraxas2k12 — Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:47:49 GMT

Could it possibly be... the Info Bunker?

http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker

Documentaries: http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker/thread/46e3e76f-20d1-4c76-9d21-f9c9e2bfac23
Music videos: http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker/thread/ed4d8ee3-8f03-449c-9679-f63b040d4e72
Misc. media: http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker/thread/3148ee1c-2e00-4a16-a977-8b9b42c4c5b0

Constructive contributions welcome!

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MUST SEE VIDEO ON WIFE OF COL. GEORGE GRIGGS, SHE SPILLS BEANS ON BUSH, KISSINGER, SKULL & BONES, CORRUPTION, ASSASINS, HOMOSEXUALS

Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:45:49 GMT

Kay Griggs Talks: Blackmail In US Government Part 1-2
>
> Kay Griggs, wife of colonel George Griggs, USMC
> (retired USMC Commandant): 29th Commandant of the
> Marine Corps, found her husband's diary, which
> contains details of homosexual blackmail in the top
> ranks of the US Marine Corps and names leading
> politicians and military leaders. Kay Griggs's
> information about the US government also comes from
> observations and people she met. She exposes
> initiation rituals, the raping of young men and
> blackmail and murders to keep people quiet. Much of
> this, according to Griggs, is related to secret
> society activity and she names figures like Henry
> Kissinger and a string of other top government
> individuals.
>
> Part 1
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-341031042963487862&q=kay+griggs
> <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-341031042963487862&q=kay+griggs>
>
> Part 2
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9137016279925999679&q=Kay+Griggs&hl=en
> <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9137016279925999679&q=Kay+Griggs&hl=en>
>
> More infos here:
> http://www.kaygriggstalks.com/

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Honor the Memory, Press for Truth

Abraxas2k12 — Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:51:52 GMT

In memory of all lives lost that day, and every life lost subsequently as consequence.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2343737961538650348&q=9%2F11+slideshow&hl=en

9/11 Press for Truth
http://www.911PressForTruth.com
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1016720641536424083&q=%22press+for+truth%22

Entire film is based on interviews with victims' family members and mainstream news reports. I will be purchasing multiple copies of this DVD to give to family and friends. If you find the film helpful, please support the filmmakers and purchase a copy for yourself or as a gift.

May the truth be known and justice served.

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"9/11: Press For Truth" Grand Lake showing

Abraxas2k12 — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:25:49 GMT

http://www.911PressForTruth.com/

SEPTEMBER 7 – OAKLAND, CA
Grand Lake Theater, 3200 Grand Ave.
(510) 452-3556
(2 Showings. 7PM. 9PM)

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Who Killed George Reeves

willat — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:55:41 GMT

I was born in 1950, so Superman was one of my childhood heros.

I heard a playground rumor that superman was dead. One of the older kids said he tried to fly from the top of a "tall building".

Imagine my parents trying to explain his death to me in terms I a little kid could understand. Suicide crept into the discussion much later.

So, who killed George Reeves? or was it suicide?

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/JackCraig/SUPERMAN1.html

http://www.tvparty.com/super.html

http://www.supermanbook.com/index.php3?gg_id=824772667

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Radio

Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:31:47 GMT

http://www.upstartradio.com/Internet%20Radio%20Broadcast.html

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earthlings are DYING.

zargon — Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:37:40 GMT

microbiologists.Ha!. Look at all the people generally that are dying. You think this is NORMAL don't you. Death.
It isn't. You have a choice of living or dying.You're choosing to die.
That's stupid.

The only 'scientific' way that you can avoid death is by travelling faster than the speed of light. Something that's ONLY possible with magnetic drive vehicles,and the ONLY such vehicle currently being hidden at Kirtland airforce base New Mexico and which I can't get to because no-one will help me.
Aren't you even going to check it out? Is death you're choice?
Live a little folks.

You see,the universe is divided into two states.Light speed and faster than light speed.
At light speed death prevails. It's a deteriorating state,impermanent.
Faster than light speeds opens up another state.One in which you can't die. It's a deathless state.Permanent.

You can only access it through my vehicle,but you can't or won't allow me to demonstrate it's capabilities.

I can wait. I can't die.I can prove it,but you will,time will prove that clearly enough.
Save yourselves.Get me my vehicle before it's too late.

How difficult can it be,how important to you?
Let me show you the truth of what I tell you.Be scientific-not dead.
Don't say that I didn't tell you.

I may not be very effective in my attempts to communicate this fact to you but let me try once again.You don't HAVE to die.YOU CAN LIVE FOREVER AT FASTER THAN LIGHT SPEEDS.

GET ME MY VEHICLE AND YOU WILL!

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"Armageddon" rock misses Earth by Moon's distance

voidportal — Sun, 02 Jul 2006 17:05:16 GMT

Not a conspiracy, apparently:

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/%22Armageddon%22_rock_misses_Earth_by_Moon%27s_distance

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Has anyone been to Moonhoax.com

Mr. DV — Sun, 28 May 2006 06:48:54 GMT

Hi ..check this out
http://www.moonhoax.com

A documentary that tries to prove we landed on the moon...Ends up with more questions...including the Nazis role in NASA. New interviews with Buzz and Gene Kranz..Clips at site..rent at Netflix

DID WE GO? A Documentary

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is cinema a message from above ?

Sigiel — Fri, 26 May 2006 00:49:42 GMT

hi,

i wanted to share with you one of my deepest thought i ever had,

look a bit silly even to me, neverless i still think it is correct, my general idea about the univers is the following,

i think the material world here is a prison, more specificly the body is a prison cell, for the soul, the spirit, you whatever you name it,

i think as a good prison, you have gardian, administrator and so one, that watch over you make sure you stay in it.

however, and that my thought i wanted to talk about, is that they are also force that try to set you free too,

and is my depest belive that sometime they use a medium to communiocate, that medium i think is cinema.

Agrh that's it.

i think artist are in touch knowingly or unknowingly with hight stae of awarness, and existance and sometime willingly and unwillingly they do carry message,
that speack the very nature of the univers,

to give you an exemple, i did watch gangs of newyork, and if you watch it with a open yes, it's realy mi9nd opening, there is all the ellement od conspiration theorist,

the allseeing eye with the eagle of the boutcher, and his resemblance with oncle sam,
the irish guy catholique, named amsterdam,

the connection betewen the boutcher and the vis maire or somthing who is a member of a secret society borderless freemason,

all the symbology or the five street, who look like a pantagram from above

the irish quater who look like a mad house or asilum,

the pseuso magic ritual that the irish undergo beford having the battel with the boucher army and a lot more, i don't remember.

that is a simple exemple.

whatch it again you will see, i was proprely astonished by the amount of conspiraty symbolism in that movie,
wich is the worse piss take ever on american socitey.

so that about it,

just wanted to know what you guys think about it.

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9/11 Documentary Listing

Abraxas2k12 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:51:47 GMT

I figured since I spent the time to build this post for another tribe, I'd post it here for reference as well.

Watch, *investigate*, decide.

9/11: Painful Deceptions
Part 1: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Painful%20Deceptions%20-%20An%20Analysis%20of%20the%20911%20Attack%20part%201.wmv
Part 2: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Painful%20Deceptions%20-%20An%20Analysis%20of%20the%20911%20Attack%20part%202.wmv
Part 3: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Painful%20Deceptions%20-%20An%20Analysis%20of%20the%20911%20Attack%20part%203.wmv

Confronting the Evidence
Part 1: http://www.amurka.com/mpg/911_1.wmv
Part 2: http://www.amurka.com/mpg/911_2.wmv
Part 3: http://www.amurka.com/mpg/911_3.wmv
Part 4: http://www.amurka.com/mpg/911_4.wmv
Part 5: http://www.amurka.com/mpg/911_5.wmv

Loose Change
Part 1: http://www.a15181636.alturo-server.de/911-LooseChange1.wmv
Part 2: http://www.a15181636.alturo-server.de/911-LooseChange2.wmv
Loose Change - 2nd Edition
Part 1: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Loose%20Change%202E%201of3.wmv
Part 2: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Loose%20Change%202E%202of3.wmv
Part 3: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Loose%20Change%202E%203of3.wmv

9/11: Evidence to the Contrary
http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/September%2011-%20Evidence%20to%20the%20Contrary%20REDUX%202006.wmv

The Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw
http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/%5BDocumentary%5D.The.Great.Conspiracy-The.9-11.News.Special.You.Never.Saw.wmv

AfterMath: Unanswered Questions From 9/11
Part 1: http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/GNN%20-%20Aftermath%20-%20Unanswered%20Questions%20of%209-11.wmv
Part 2: http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/GNN%20-%20Aftermath%20-%20Live%20Panel.wmv
Part 3: http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/GNN%20-%20Aftermath%20-%20Additional%20Interviews.wmv

Mohammed Atta and the Venice Flying Circus
http://www.lastingnetworks.com/alexvideos/flyingcircus256.wmv

9/11: The Great Illusion
Part 1: http://download.alciada.net/911/911-TheGreatIllusion/911-TheGreatIllusion1.wmv
Part 2: http://download.alciada.net/911/911-TheGreatIllusion/911-TheGreatIllusion2.wmv

Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State
Part 1: http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/Alex%20Jones%20-%20Martial%20Law%202005%20-%20part1of3.wmv
Part 2: http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/Alex%20Jones%20-%20Martial%20Law%202005%20-%20part2of3.wmv
Part 3: http://www.lonelantern.org/downloads/Alex%20Jones%20-%20Martial%20Law%202005%20-%20part3of3.wmv

9/11: The Road to Tyranny
http://download.alciada.net/911/911TheRoadToTyranny.wmv

9/11 and the American Empire - Dr. David Ray Griffin lecture at University of Wisconsin
Recorded and broadcast by CSPAN
http://www.apfn.org/Movies/griffin_madison_full_25.wmv

Cynthia McKinneys critical review of the 9/11 Comission Report
Recorded and broadcast by CSPAN
Part 1: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Cynthia%20McKinney%20on%20CSPAN%20-%20911%20report%20card%201%20of%204.wmv
Part 2: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Cynthia%20McKinney%20on%20CSPAN%20-%20911%20report%20card%202%20of%204.wmv
Part 3: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Cynthia%20McKinney%20on%20CSPAN%20-%20911%20report%20card%203%20of%204.wmv
Part 4: http://www.question911.net.nyud.net:8090/7w1305ee4049wq44pwzell9ee23/Cynthia%20McKinney%20on%20CSPAN%20-%20911%20report%20card%204%20of%204.wmv

Truth and Lies of 9/11 w/ ex-LAPD Mike Ruppert
Part 1: http://www.thelawparty.com/MediaPlayer/911/TruthandLies0f911Part156k.wmv
Part 2: http://www.ganjasound.fsworld.co.uk/films%20&%20clips/mike%20ruppert_911%20the%20truth%20and%20lies%20part%202.rm
Part 3: http://www.ganjasound.fsworld.co.uk/films%20&%20clips/mike%20ruppert_911%20the%20truth%20and%20lies%20part%203.rm
Part 4: http://www.indybay.org/uploads/truthlies9-11part4.wmv

The Truth Behind 9/11
Michel Chossudovsky - professor of economics, University of Ottawa
http://vancouver.indymedia.org/uploads/michel.mov

911 Citizens' Inquiry
Mike Ruppert - former LAPD narcotics officer, whistleblower & author
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/ruppertinterview911mar0456k.wmv
Barrie Zwicker - TV host/producer & media critic
http://chicago.indymedia.org/usermedia/video/12/zwicker911conf03200456k.wmv
Paul Thompson - cooperativeresearch.org
http://chicago.indymedia.org/usermedia/video/1/pthompson911inqmar0456k.wmv
Webster Tarpley - co-author 'George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography'
http://images.indymedia.org/imc/washingtondc/media/video/4/tarpley911inqmar0456k.wmv
Mathias Broeckers - journalist & writer
Part 1: http://ontario.indymedia.ca/twiki/pub/Ontario/mov/2004/broeckers156k.mov
Part 2: http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/broeckersplatoscave256k.mov
Nafeez Ahmed - author
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/nafeezahmad911conf03200456k.wmv
Ralph Schoenman - radio host & activist
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2004/04/103862.wmv
Jim Marrs - investigative journalist & author
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2004/04/103788.wmv
Phil Berg - former Pennsylvanian deputy attorney general
http://images.indymedia.org/imc/seattle/media/2004/04/240155.mov
Eric Hufschmid - author
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/ehufschmpt1911inqmar0456k.wmv
Ken Jenkins - psychologist, videographer
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2004/04/103718.wmv

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Pushing the theory to the extreme...

Sigiel — Sun, 14 May 2006 13:49:36 GMT

hi, i recently had a thought, wile i was on David Ike website, reading about reptilian stuff and other things, it just popped up like that.

and if all conspirational where made only to distract one from seeking the truth,

what i mean is to me the population is divided into group, there is the sleepers (people that just live there live, don't question anything) there is the educated sleepers that do actually study there's dream life, there is the awaken, that ask himself basic question who am i, what am i, why I'm here and stuff) and the anaesthetist, (the guy that the job is to keep you asleep) I'm sure there is more group of people too ...

there is all way the guy that will ask himself question, asking question is dangerous, and it seem to me that conspiracy theory are another kind of control, like religions, so I'm sure there is a lot of crap that was sent around to confuse the all subject.

don't get me wrong, I'm a conspirator.... but after a while i realise that i was passing way to much time to find news, proof and data or other fact, and the time i passed to search, i could have used to actually try to make a better living, or to help other and stuff,

i do know that life on earth in the 2 millennium is a gross illusion, but all of it is illusion, every single piece of it. conspirators theory included.

it's a kind of very abstract thought I'm trying to communicate,. recently i decided to start anew, to drop all, especially what i thought i new. cause it didn't add up. for me a data is valuable as fare as i can use it. and a good valuable piece of data or information will be the one that will increase my survival rate. may happiness and stuff.

give you an example, the vaccine theory, is a valuable one, as it kept me out of trouble, i never had any vaccine what so ever. and last time i had a check up, my doctor told me that my immune system was fare above normal, it's the same for my dad, my mum and my brother and sister, the common data is that all of use never had any vaccine, well my mum had some and nearly died out of it, so she decided to not let this happen to us.

another one is the aspartame theory, both my grand mum and grand dad from all side had died from brain damage, and i know from fact that they all used aspartame especially my grand dad who was diabetic, and other guy in my family... so i do keep away from it. and it even more and more of a challenged to find anything without that fucking damned poison.

see where I'm going?

so sometime when i read about skull and bones, illuminaty and stuff, (i really does interest me) but after a while it bored me, cause i can't use that data to increase directly my survival, i know what and who they are, what they want, so in a senses, I can see better, but what the sue of knowing all the detail... the juicy part, the last move on the chest board ?,

i rather study the law in university (i did) so i can actually defend myself better with it. study meditation so i can de stress better, martial art, and so one... so i will be more able to face life. I'm 29 now, I'v been in conspiracy theory since I'm about 12, i was fortunates a nought to be one of the first kid to have access to Internet. or the like (my dad was working making software) and he was heavily involved in esoterica, he was a fee mason (is not any more). so i know first hand few juicy stuff, but after 15 years of intense research, i asked myself what if all of what i know on this subject is a lie ( i really believe that truth is the solution that it will set me free) but these theory didn't set me free. some really did help me, other where totally useless.

recently i was like most of you interested in 9.11 and did lot of research and stuff look many web page, and so one, but most of the data i saw wasn't to my satisfaction, always in the back of my head that little voice (if it was also a lie to distract you from seeing the truth).
so i did look at 911 from a totally new angle, i say to myself what can YOU really observe. i did watch the news at the time, i did recall some thing, and i had the chance to be friend of a guy who did work with the fire man to help cleaning up ground zero. so i had this first hand witness that i do trust. well my friend is totally convinced that the official story is the real one, he saw ground zero and stuff, but he also was around a saw people , how ever after talking to him kinda heavily on it, few thing appeared misplaced and so one, so by looking myself i could see that this theory was correct too. but as it use.... I'm in France, my state is already fascist.

i recently read a small part of the ART of WAR. and distraction and deceit is one of the best way to win a war... so what if.... all conspiracy theory where just another smock screen....

that all i wanted to say.

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Why are UFOS...

Mon, 03 Apr 2006 05:21:45 GMT

why are most UFO sightings reported only by toothless disabled white trash hillbillies living in a trailer home in some western or southern state shithole that could not be of any interest to any space alien?

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Alarm over shopping radio tags

bobs — Sun, 09 Apr 2006 09:52:37 GMT

Alarm over shopping radio tags

By David Reid
Click reporter

Supermarkets have already brought everything under the sun under one roof, and along the way been accused of denuding the High Street of butcher, baker and candlestick-maker.

Now they are introducing a new technology that some say threatens a fundamental invasion of our privacy.

We are all familiar with barcodes, those product fingerprints that save cashiers the bother of keying in the code number of everything we buy.

Now, meet their replacement: the RFID tag, or radio frequency ID tag.

These smart labels consist of a tiny chip surrounded by a coiled antenna.

Good tracking

While barcodes need to be manually scanned, RFID simply broadcasts its presence and data to electronic readers.

It means the computer networks of companies can track the position and progress of billions of products on rail, road, sea and shelf.

Albrecht Von Truchsess, from the German supermarket chain Metro Group, which uses this technology, says: "RFID really brings a revolution to everything that is transported from one point to the other, and in the future you will have it really on everything.

"That means that we don't have to do anything while the goods are on the way from the production site to our stores. It is just done automatically."

For all the benefits the technology promises, the roll-out of RFID is in danger of being derailed by the public's perception of it.

A Christian author in the US, for example, has just published a book claiming RFID will evolve into the mark of the beast featured in Revelation and presage the end of the world.

'Big Brother'?

The technology has also attracted criticism from more moderate voices.

Among these is Vint Cerf. He is one of the inventors of the internet and is now employed by Google as the company's internet evangelist.

He told Click: "What everybody worries about is that these identifiers will be used not to keep track of the object, but of the person associated with the object and then there's a Big Brother scenario that everybody worries about.

"But when the economics get to the point where the readers are inexpensive and the chips are inexpensive, then you start to ask yourself who has the ability to read the chips and what do they do with the information?"

Metro sees RFID working for it by having food traceable back to the farm, queues cut to nothing, and shelves that shout when they are empty.

But with remotely readable tags on everything from boots to beans, is it the customers or what they buy that is being labelled?

Former Australian privacy commissioner Malcolm Crompton says: "If done wrongly, it really is possible that I can buy things in one shop and be tracked in another shop, that the data, once collected, stays there for someone to come in and collect and use under circumstances that I don't know about or that I don't approve of.

"I think that is when society is on a slippery slope."

The fear is that what we buy will be forever linked to us. In the nightmare scenario, an innocently discarded soft drink can could end up in what later becomes a crime scene.

RFID could open a whole new field of forensics where the tag on the can removes any reasonable doubt.

Taking steps

Concerns about RFID have been taken up by Viviane Reding, the European commissioner for information society and media.

She has recently launched a public consultation process with a view to seeing whether RFID needs to be regulated.

She says: "A new technology that is bound to be multiplied by 10 to 15 times in the next coming years in numbers of sales will not fly, and will not be of benefit to the community and to the economy if the consumers are afraid that this technology might be a threat to their privacy."

One solution being floated is the idea of killing the code on the chip as customers leave the shop.

Whatever comes out of the European Commission's consultation, it looks likely that your Saturday shop will never be the same again.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/4886598.stm

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Osama Bin Laden

fear_n_loathing — Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:26:28 GMT

So.......does anyone else think that Osama Bin Laden could have been completely made up by the government?

It's kinda ironic how we always are SO CLOSE to getting to him and then poof, he's gone again. And those videos could be made anywhere. We caught Saddam in a relatively short amount of time compared to how many years we've been looking for Osama? And it's just like the government to make someone up for the masses to blame and be angry at.

Or am I crazy?

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Military bases covering up the next area 51?

Mup_Dit — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:45:55 GMT

Sierra army depot is a very peculiar place to grow up and lemme tell you It's the next area 51! I've seen some pretty amazing stuff there growing up in the deserts by highway 395!

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GET GAS NOW!

fear_n_loathing — Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:23:00 GMT

Now I'm not the paranoid type but....

Hurricane katrina is disrupting the oil flow to the country. Bush said he might even let go of some of the reserves. I suggest people get gas asap incase it doesn't go down anytime soon.

BTW, anyone catch "oil storm" on FX about a month back?

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chemtrail update

ionamiller — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:24:28 GMT

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Sonoran Desert as well through the Phoenix area, were physically assaulted
yesterday by a squadron of corporatized goons who lay down an intense
grid of chemtrail spray. Flying from the West, as is their usual
predatory pattern, the trails were laid out mostly in a West to East
pattern. Since then the region immediately began to haze up and an extensive
haze has covered much of the area. This has no doubt cooled the area
by reflecting more sunlight off the desert back into outer space. It
has also no doubt tended to make the area, relative to surrounding zones,
more of a high pressure, dense air zone, keeping badly needed moisture
from flowing over the region. All resident citizens should be notified
that their property, lives, and natural environment are being attacked
by brigrands and pirates who are stealing away their livelihoods and
the quality of their lives. All citizens should begin to keep area logs
to record all acts of assault and theft which they can witness in their
areas by the pirates. These logs will be necessary for arming citizen
militias with ammunition for enjoining arrest of the goons and seizure
of the assets of those who command them at the appropriate time and in
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9/11 Presentation, Oakland CA

Abraxas2k12 — Sun, 05 Mar 2006 20:25:59 GMT

For those in the Bay Area, there will be a lecture in Oakland on March 30th 2006:
Lecture: "9/11: The Myth & the Reality"
by Dr. David Ray Griffin
http://www.ScholarsFor911Truth.org/
7-9:00PM, Grand Lake Theater, 3200 Grand Avenue, Oakland

Other 9/11 events and details:
http://www.communitycurrency.org/events.html

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My Lecture and Documentary Collection

Abraxas2k12 — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:13:43 GMT

Thanks to the wonders of the internet and BitTorrent, over the last year I have acquired over 125 various documentaries and lectures.

The topics include:
General Politics
9/11
Alex Jones
Banking and Finance
The CIA
"Drug" Related
Energy Systems
Health
Nazis
Chemtrails
Jordan Maxwell
David Icke
and "Beyond"

I'd like to spread this information to anyone interested, and have started a tribe to help facilitate that. The tribe page displays the current list of presentations I have available. C'mon over and check it out.

http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker

And if you've seen any of the videos and would prefer to discuss them here, that would be great as well!

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Space exploration or exploitation...

Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:51:27 GMT

The whole sending up an unprepared ship into space, what a flippin' joke. We were supposed to get caught up in the drame and see that we SHOULD have confidence in our space program, since they can repair problems out in space. WHY, the necessity to send it up when they knew it still had issues?Answer: To create a faith in our space program, so we will be more willing to give to explore regions unknown, when in actuality, it is just more money to hoard or to use on spying from space. Spare me the drama, already, and just tell me that a hammer costs $200 as it is vacuum packed, so you can get your greedy hands on my money.
Shadow Walker

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What the hell is this?

Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:59:54 GMT

http://www.weather.com/maps/maptype/satelliteworld/atlanticoceansatellite_large_animated.html
Put the map in motion and take a look at the "missile" or what not headed at the island chain underneath Haiti. It appears to come from the East out of a storm, BUT pay attention to the decrease in size, as if it cane from above at an angle and then reduces in size on its way down, until impact.
Flippin weird. Wonder if we'll hear about this. Anyone know if any space garbage was coming down in the past 24 hours?
+SW->

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Flu Beginnings?

Carol — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:51:58 GMT

First there was this story:

news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051...s_nm/flu_dc

Scientists resurrect 1918 flu, study deadliness Wed Oct 5, 1:25 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Scientists who resurrected the 1918 "Spanish flu" virus that killed as many as 50 million people said on Wednesday they are beginning to understand why it caused such a deadly pandemic and say it could happen again.

They have begun comparing the genetic mutations in the 1918 flu to those being seen in the H5N1 avian flu virus killing tens of millions of poultry and some people in Asia, in the hope of being able to predict and perhaps even prevent a similar pandemic.

"We felt we had to recreate the virus and run these experiments to understand the biological properties that made the 1918 virus so exceptionally deadly," said Terrence Tumpey of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, who helped write the reports published jointly this week in the journals Nature and Science.

The experiment, in which the virus was recreated employing a process called reverse genetics using preserved samples of the 1918 virus, allowed the researchers to test it in the laboratory and in several animals.

It will help answer important questions, said Dr. Jeffery Taubenberger of the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Rockville, Maryland.

"How did the virus get into humans and how did the pandemic start? Second is to understand how this particular virus was so virulent," Taubenberger told reporters in a telephone briefing.

"What can we learn from the lessons of 1918 to prepare for and mitigate against a future influenza pandemic?" he asked.

Drugs and vaccines could be designed to target the mutations found in the research, Taubenberger said.

Taubenberger's team used pieces of virus taken from preserved samples from 1918 victims, as well as from the corpse of a victim dug up from a frozen grave in Alaska in 1998.

BROUGHT VIRUS BACK TO LIFE

They used these pieces to make a replica of the 1918 virus, and brought it back to "life" -- viruses are not truly alive like other microbes -- by combining it with modern influenza virus pieces and growing it in bacteria.
"We now think that the best interpretation of the data available to us is that the 1918 virus was an entirely avian-like virus that adapted to humans," Taubenberger said.
This, he said, was different from the two other 20th century flu pandemics, in 1958 and 1967, in which different flu viruses actually swapped genes to become especially virulent. "It suggests that pandemics can form in more than one way," Taubenberger said.
There were several changes in each gene of the 1918 flu, Taubenberger said. The H5N1 flu is beginning to show some of the same changes, he said, but appears to be early on in the process.
The findings reinforce the fears of health officials about H5N1 avian flu, which now does not easily infect humans but which has killed more than 60 people in four Asian nations. It will take only a few mutations for a virus that has killed tens of millions of birds to become just as infectious and deadly in people.
But now the scientists are beginning to understand what the mutations are and perhaps start work on drugs and vaccines that can fight them.
"We identified a number of virus proteins that were essential for the development of severe pulmonary (lung) disease," Tumpey said.
In particular, he said, a protein called hemagglutinin -- the "H" in flu names -- was key. When the 1918 hemagglutinin was replaced with a modern influenza hemagglutinin, the resulting virus was not very deadly at all.
Also, another protein called neuraminidase was mutated in the 1918 virus in such a way that it could replicate itself under unusual conditions, perhaps deeper in the lung than other flu viruses. Neuraminidase is another key flu gene that makes up the "N" in flu designations.
The 1918 flu was an H1N1 flu and very different from H5N1, the researchers stress. They also said there was no danger to the public from their experiments, which are conducted in biosafety level 3 labs designed to contain the virus.
And today's human flu viruses are all descendants of the 1918 flu, which means people have some immunity to them, CDC director Dr. Julie Gerberding said. What is frightening about H5N1 is that people do not have any immunity to it.
If not H5N1, then some other influenza virus is certain to cause a pandemic that could be much worse than the 1918 flu, Gerberding said.
"Most experts agree it is not a question of if -- it is a question of when," she said.
"This important science creates new information and new clues that does help us prepare for the pandemic."
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Then there was this story and what is really creepy, is they said just now on my local Sacramento news, that what this plane was carring, was the FLU VIRUS but that it was "destroyed" on impact.

calsun.canoe.ca/News/Natio...38-sun.html

Pilot killed in Winnipeg plane crash
By SUN MEDIA

WINNIPEG -- A female pilot died early yesterday when her single-engine cargo plane crash-landed on a railway track.
The plane -- a single-engine Cessna 208 carrying freight for FedEx -- crashed just before 6 a.m., avoiding a nearby Masonic temple and high-rise apartment blocks.
Witness Trevor Mueller saw the plane pass overhead coming from the east.
He said the craft wobbled, then slammed into the west shore of the river.
"I could see its control lights and hear its engine. I saw a sudden flutter. It looked like a bobble in its flight path. I knew something was up," said Mueller.
Moments later, the plane crashed and sent a ball of flames 20 feet into the air, witnesses said.
Sources identified the pilot as Nancy Chase Allen, 49.
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Found a link:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/12836481.htm
Plane carrying viruses crashes in Canada
Associated Press
WINNIPEG, Manitoba - A cargo plane carrying small amounts of flu virus crashed on railway tracks near Winnipeg's city center Thursday, killing the pilot but missing buildings and vehicles, authorities said.
The research samples of frozen influenza and herpes viruses were destroyed in the crash and ensuing fire along with other freight, Federal Express spokeswoman Karen Cooper said.
She said the Cessna 208 was owned by Morningstar Air Express of Edmonton and was under contract to FedEx.
Morningstar spokesman Don Boettcher didn't immediately identify the woman piloting the aircraft. "She'd been with us for about five years," he said, without providing further details.
The plane took off from the Winnipeg airport en route to Thunder Bay, Ontario, at about 5:45 a.m. and traveled about four miles southeast of the airport before it requested a return, Transportation Safety Board investigator David Ross said.
"The aircraft then descended below radar coverage and contact was lost with the aircraft," Ross said.
"It has crashed on railway tracks and does not appear to have collided with any other objects, houses or cars," police Sgt. Shelly Glover said.
Winnipeg police spokeswoman Carolyn Kwiatek said there was no damage to the surrounding area from the fire. The crash did tie up traffic on nearby streets during the morning rush, but no accidents or injuries resulted.
In its cargo were six vials of virus samples being sent to Thunder Bay for research, Cooper said.
Although the samples were labeled dangerous goods, they weren't considered hazardous at the crash site since all the cargo was destroyed in the blaze, Cooper said.
Police Sgt. Kelly Dennison said weather may have been a factor. Reports suggested light snow and mist in the area, temperatures near the freezing mark, moderate winds and about four miles of visibility.
Ross said the plane probably wasn't carrying a flight data recorder.

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$110 Billion+: Can we just give them $75, 000 checks?

Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:33:57 GMT

At least, it would guarantee that the money goes to the right people!
$110 Billion at last count to "rebuild" New Orleans and Bush will want more. Take that # and divide it by how many people were to be evacuated (1.5 million)and you come up with $73,333. What a great deal! Do you think those people will ever see much of that cash? Are you buying the newest propaganda of Bush changing his ways? What a great speech at the U.N. that all should be forgiven of their past debts. The USA forgives these minimal nations debts and then we turn around and expect the same in return. Does this mean that China is supposed to let go of the 12-15% they own of the USA in debts? It wasn't that great of a speech. The reality is that we owe more than any other nation, last time I checked, and Bush is tring to get forgiveness for his overspending. Think it will play through? LOL
As for New Orleans...Yeah, those homeless will get cheapo mobile homes (tornado magnets) and will get a bit of cash, but you can bet that tons of that money will be diverted! We'll probably see a new mega government agency going into New Orleans too. Wonder why Bush was smiling during the his most recent speech? Think of how much money can be diverted on catastrophy relief. The general public likes to help others, so the money spent on "relief" isn't going to be written down for all to see, other than a few general numbers to make it look good. Different day, same President!
Shadow Walker

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Marilyn Monroe unplugged

Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:14:11 GMT

http://ww1.mid-day.com/news/world/2005/august/116601.htm

Marilyn Monroe unplugged
By: Khalid A-H Ansari
August 19, 2005
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Vancouver, Canada: The tempestuous life and times of Marilyn Monroe, the quintessential sex goddess, who died 62 years and 14 days ago — to the day — have been shrouded in mystery.

Her sexual encounters with president John F Kennedy, her failed marriages to playwright Arthur Miller and baseball superstar Joe di Maggio, her sexual encounter with Joan Crawford, relationships with Frank Sinatra and Lawrence Olivier, her yearning to be taken seriously as an actress and, most of all, the curious circumstances surrounding her tragic death have invested her persona with an aura of mystique that refuses to die with the passage of time.

New light has been shed on the Oscar-winning actress’ state of mind shortly before her death — of acute barbiturate poisoning according to the original 1962 autopsy — following the publication of transcripts of tapes in the Los Angeles Times newspaper on her recent death anniversary.

Marilyn Monroe apparently made the tapes for her psychiatrist Dr Ralph Greenson, who professedly played them for former prosecutor John Miner, who attended Monroe’s autopsy and helped to investigate her death.

Eighty-six-year-old prosecutor Miner says he made “extensive” and “nearly verbatim” notes on the tapes after promising never to publicise their contents.

However, Miner broke his promise when Dr Greenson died and biographers of the legendary actress implicated the psychiatrist in her death.

In the tapes, Marilyn Monroe, who played the stereotype dumb blonde as no other, says she won an Oscar for faking orgasms, that she enjoyed enemas and pledged to throw all her pills in the toilet.

Monroe is believed to have had an affair with President John F Kennedy at the time of the recording, a rumour said to have been fuelled by her famous steamy rendition of “Happy Birthday” in his honour.

The tapes show Monroe had “very specific plans for her future” and, therefore, could not have been suicidal.

Marilyn Monroe uses the technique of free association, used by James Joyce in his seminal book Ulysses, on the advice of her psychiatrist, causing the actress to warn: “You will hear a lot of bad language.”

Extracts of Monroe’s thoughts on Kennedy and Clark Gable have already been published. However, her feelings for her ex-husbands, her friendship with Frank Sinatra and suspicions about Eunice Murray, the housekeeper, who discovered her naked body, have been revealed for the first time.

Marilyn Monroe’s candid confessions from the couch shed light on her labyrinthine inner self. Excerpts are being reproduced to enable a better understanding of the misunderstood tragic sex icon. Readers with prudish sensibilities are advised to switch off — post haste!

On Clark Gable

In the kissing scenes, I kissed him with real affection. I didn’t want to go to bed with him, but I wanted him to know how much I liked and appreciated him. He told me he had been a hunter for a long time, but he had decided not to kill animals. He said if he had children, he would teach them to hunt with a camera instead of a gun.

When I came back from a day off the set, he patted my a** and told me if I didn’t behave myself he would give me a good spanking.

I looked him in the eye and said, “Don’t tempt me”. He burst out laughing so loud he was tearing.

Because of his performance I have seen Gone With The Wind over and over again. He was perfect. All right, that was a long time ago. I must have been about 13. I have never seen a man who was as romantic as he was in that picture.

It was different when I got to know him. Then I wanted him to be my father. I wouldn’t care if he spanked me as long as he made up for it by hugging me and telling me I was daddy’s little girl and he loved me. Of course that’s fantasy.

On orgasms

What I told you when I first became your patient is true. I had never had an orgasm. I well remember you said an orgasm happens in the mind, not the genitals.

You said there was an obstacle in my mind that prevented me from having an orgasm; that it was something that happened early in my life about which I felt so guilty that I did not deserve to have the greatest pleasure there is; that it had something to do with something sexual that was very wrong, but my pleasure from getting pleasure from it caused my guilt.

That it was buried in my subconscious. Through analysis we would bring it to my conscious mind where we could get to the guilt and free me to be orgasmic.

Well, we sure worked it and it got nowhere. I’d go home and cry and vomit from the frustration. Then you said for the orgasm problem we would try a different approach.

That you would tell me how to stimulate myself, that when I did exactly what you told me to do I would have an orgasm and that after I did it to myself and felt what it was, I would have orgasms with lovers.

What a difference a word makes. You said I would, not I could.

Bless you doctor. What you say is gospel to me. By now I’ve had lots of orgasms. Not only one, but two and three with a man who takes his time.

I never cried as hard as I did after my first orgasm. It was because of the years I had never had an orgasm. What wasted years. How can I describe to you, a man, what an orgasm feels like to a woman. I’ll try.

Think of a light fixture with a rheostat control. As you slowly turn it on, the bulb begins to get bright, and then brighter and brighter and finally in a blinding flash is fully lit. As you turn it off it gradually becomes dimmer and at last goes out.

Speaking of Oscars, I would win overwhelmingly if the Academy gave Oscars for faking orgasms. I have done some of my best acting convincing my partners I was in the throes of ecstasy.

On Joan Crawford

Oh yes, Crawford. We went to Joan’s bedroom. Crawford had a gigantic orgasm and shrieked like a maniac.

Next time I met Crawford she wanted another round. I told her straight I didn’t much enjoy doing it with a woman. After I turned her down she became spiteful.

An English poet best describes it, “Heaven hath no rage like love to hatred turned: Nor Hell a fury like a woman scorned.”

Most people credit that to Shakespeare. William Congreve is the author. That’s me. Marilyn Monroe, the classical scholar.

About enemas

But doctor. I don’t understand this big taboo about enemas. Most of the actresses I know use them, even some who won’t admit it. Mae West told me she is given an enema every day and she has at least one orgasm a day. Mae says her enemas and orgasms will keep her young until she is 100.

Peter Crawford says the Queen and noblemen of the court of Louis XIV were give frequent enemas by special servants called apothecaries. The purpose was to give them peaches and cream complexions. Something about intestinal toxins getting into your blood. So there you are. Those ladies were doing the intelligent thing.

Yes. I enjoy enemas, so what!

On growing old

I stood naked in front of my full-length mirror for a long time yesterday. I was all made up with my hair done. What did I see? My breasts are beginning to sag a bit. My waist isn’t bad. My ass is what it should be, the best there is. Legs, knees and ankles still shapely. And my feet are not too big. Ok, Marilyn, you have it all there. It is decision time.

On the Kennedys

Marilyn Monroe is a soldier. Her commander in chief is the greatest and most powerful man in the world. The first duty of a soldier is to obey her commander in chief.

He says, “Do this”, you do this. He says, “Do that”. You do that.

This man is going to change our country. No I am not talking Utopia — that’s illusion, but he will transform America today like FDR (F D Roosevelt) did in the 30s.

And he’ll do for the world what he’ll do for America — transform it for the better. I tell you doctor, when he has finished his achievements he will take his place with Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and FDR as one of our greatest presidents. As long as I have memory, I have John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

I’m glad he has Bobby. It's like the navy. The president is the captain and Bobby is his executive officer.

But Bobby, doctor, what should I do about Bobby? As you see there is no room in my life for him. I guess I don’t have the courage to face up to it and hurt him.

I think what’s happened with Bobby is that he has stopped having good sex with his wife for some time. Well when he starts having sex with the body all men want, his Catholic morality has to find a way to justify cheating his wife. So love becomes his excuse. And if you love enough, you can’t help it and you can’t be blamed.

All right, doctor, that’s Marilyn Monroe’s analysis of Bobby’s love for me.”

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EM weapon lowdown

ionamiller — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:42:02 GMT

This is a long article in full that prints to 9 pages - follow the prompts - but VERY pertinent to the entire world! And once again I state categorically that there is no such thing as a non-lethal EMF directed energy weapon! Around the world this is a covert chapter in USA's long history of targeted casualties of torture and terror as many people can testify, including lots of Australians!

Sharon Weinberger is writing a book about the Pentagon and fringe science, to be published by Nation Books next year.
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"This is very clandestine," Pete Bitar whispered, as his red Dodge Caravan idled in the parking lot of a Burger King near Fort Belvoir. "They called last week, and they wanted delivery this week."

The procurement order had gone through so quickly that the Indiana-based Bitar, who was in town for a conference, agreed to make his final delivery at the Burger King to avoid the hassle of getting onto the Virginia Army base.

* Since when are military arms sales conducted in the parking lots of fast food outlets?

Gibbs funds other offbeat projects, such as Medusa, an attempt to develop a weapon that uses low-power microwaves -- believed to cause an audible buzzing in subjects' heads -- to make people think God is speaking to them. Another such weapon would use beams of energy to make people dizzy and lose their balance.

But ideas are what Bitar overflows with. His latest is to use ultrasonic waves in the dazzler not to just blind enemies, but also to convey messages into their heads, similar to Gibbs's Medusa project. Hearing voices from God is a "big thing" in Arab culture, according to Bitar. "We flash-blind them. And, while their eyes are shut, you could send a recorded message or deep guttural voice that echoes in the inside of their head. They're looking around, 'Hey, did you hear that?'''

* That or something like it has been around and in use upon American experimentees for decades. It just hasn't been declassified (or believed by most of you). Think not? Think again.

Bitar laughed. "That's the psych warfare side of this thing."

"I mean, this whole war on terror, that's exactly what we have to do. We have to be able to minimize our collateral damage because, frankly, we can't afford for the whole world to hate us for very long."

* So the solution is to invent super weapons and to throw them at the world and keep this nation safe by threat of force? Brilliant. Apparently, noone in military circles ever thinks to wonder why the 'whole world' hates us so. After having been experimented upon for years with technologies like these, quite a few American citizens who are targeted individuals (TIs) are beginning to feel the same way. The rest of blissfully ignorant America doesn't seem to realize that one alternate meaning for 'non-lethal' is 'deniable in application'. If you or someone you love were being hit with the Medusa technology or something like it, just exactly how would you prove it or convince others of the fact of it? The answer is - you could not. Think not? Think again.

You might think that psychiatristy and psychology professionals would be in the best position to evaluate when and if a given citizen, complaining emphatically about such tortures, is relating an actual reality. But in practice, just the opposite is true. Shrinks, blinded by their own arrogance and belief in the infallibility of their opinions, are usually the LAST to realize the truth. After all, psychology/psychiatry, of all the sciences, has the lowest standard of proof and is the ONLY science in which a degreed professional can rub his chin thoughtfully, come up with an appropriate sounding label and gift a complainant with a false diagnosis, adding insult to injury. Think not? Think again.

His office helped develop the Active Denial System, a weapon that uses millimeter waves -- a supercharged version of microwaves -- to heat up the skin's nerve endings, creating a burning sensation similar to touching a 100-watt light bulb. Except the beam, while painful, does not actually burn the skin.

The weapon was only recently declassified.

The point, he continued, is not to hurt someone, but simply to force a particular action, or to condition a response.

"Sort of like Pavlov's dogs," interrupted the enthusiastic Raytheon vendor.

Comparing humans to dogs who salivate on command didn't seem to sit well with Karcher, who winced.

* That's frequently what TIs are finding. Burned, shocked, sleep-deprived, mocked, ridiculed relentlessly for years at a time within their homes, the workplace and elsewhere without the slightest chance at a fair self defense or due process. Think it's not happening? Think again.

He noted a military officer who built a Tesla coil weapon, claiming to have tested it by shooting it "into the grille of an annoying rude driver in a traffic jam."

"It's taking a disturbing turn," Diels said with a sigh. "I feel a little bit like the German scientists of the Third Reich, who have no option but to do this research because that's what the government funds."

What's wrong with the idea of a stun gun? "This nonlethal technology, I mean, aimed at electrocuting a crowd of protesters?" he said. "That's not really appetizing, I must say."

* To prevent public outcry and insure funding, that's what the public is sold on time and again so that they will get a soft fuzzy feeling, thinking that new ways to be more humane in war and crowd control are being developed. Quite the opposite is true in most cases. In fact, the number of innocent American citizens being hit with the Medusa technology or something like it, for example, VASTLY outnumbers any individuals hit with it in crowd control (like the Greenham Common protestors) and warfare situations. Those who think they know something about the actual reality, in order to convince them to shut up, ask no questions and join in with the 'fun', are told that these things are only used in America upon terrorists and criminals, which is a lie. But true or not, everyone is due equal protection under the law, not just you and those dear to you. Think its not true? Think again.

"It's kind of weird, especially because when it comes to weapons, you'd rather arm your own country than someone else," he said.

But he shrugged and added, "A customer is a customer."

* Even private citizens are getting their hands on some of these technologies (and using them on their neighbors). Think it's not true? Think again.

"We haven't done human testing," Bitar said.

"Yeah, not officially," Bitar said with a sly smile. He would not elaborate on any unofficial testing.

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Are both "heaven" and "god(s)" from way up above?

aleksonder — Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:03:21 GMT

"The Nefelim (Nephilim) or Elohim are known as those who ‘came from Heaven’ and therefore, we are led to believe, from the skies, meaning, we are told, that they must have been of extraterrestrial origin. However, according to the Sumerian historian L. A. Waddell, Heaven (Himin or Imin in Sumerian) refers to a mountain capital and Heaven or Himin was, therefore, the Sumerians ‘high place’ of rule in the mountains. Therefore, that the Nefelim or Elohim ‘have come down from or descended from a high place, from the mountains or the highlands’ would surely be a more accurate description than one we are seemingly being forced to believe. It is interesting today that in buildings insurance policies under ‘exclusions’, we have a reference to ‘loss or destruction or damage by frost or subsidence or ‘ground heave…’ Is it possible that the word ‘heave’ descends from the Sumerian word for heaven – heaven. It is interesting that ‘ground heave’ means the raising of the ground or the lifting of the ground above its previous level, which is exactly how mountains are formed; the ground or earth is forced upward from its previous level creating ‘high places’. Do we have, with the word ‘heave’, a modern day derivative of the word ‘heaven’ which was used by the Sumerians to refer to people ‘being from or coming from the mountains or the raised land’? If this is so, then we have no proof of extraterrestrial visitation here either."

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Add to this forementioned quotation this idea:

The Gods upon Mt. Olympus. Is this just mythology?

Hmm, what to believe? Can we ever know? Along similar lines of thought, the author, Steve Gamble, questions the authenticity of aliens, and suggests that this is all a military hoax.

Considering that free energy was taken from the people and has solely been in the military's possession for sometime now, the flying saucers of WWII in Hitler's regime, the fallen pilots from Roswell (near military bases) and other top secret agendas from NASA to national security may indeed be man's creations (experiments). The ideas of how mind control could be employed with drugs and hypnosis, and how stories could be fabricated to create the illusion of alien abductions, and even crop circles could be manmade from above in devices created by the military (hmm, that's another related agenda) are indeed interesting to ponder.

Are movie goers being set up for a fabricated "War of the Worlds"? Is the Armageddon one big orchestrated lie? How deep could TV be to promote an elusive hidden agenda? Is subliminal seduction still happening. Um, I dunno it's subliminal, right?

Are helpless victims being programmed to believe in enormouus lies and deceptions? Is this distortion possibly all about concocting a nonexistent alien threat in the final days so bible thumpers can finally say I told you so?

OK, let's catch our breath here. Perhaps the external world is exploding while the internal world is imploding and somehow we are finding balance. It's all good, bad and ugly. Hmm, how about beautiful! I like my slant on reality. Um, you pick and choose yours. ;-)

Cheers and love for all,

Aleksonder

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Not Terrorism?

Carol — Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:34:09 GMT

http://cbc.ca/cp/world/050815/w081576.html

Police in Cyprus raid airline offices a day after crash kills 121 people
06:28 PM EDT Aug 15
ELENA BECATOROS

ATHENS, Greece (AP) - Police in Cyprus raided the offices of Helios Airways in the coastal city of Larnaca on Monday, a day after one of the company's passenger jets slammed into a mountainside near Athens, killing all 121 people on board.

Police spokeswoman Christalla Dimitriou said officers "carried out a search" after asking the city's court for a search warrant. No arrests were made and she did not say whether police had confiscated any material from the office.

Chief Athens coroner Fillipos Koutsaftis, meanwhile, said that tests conducted on the remains showed at least six of the 121 victims were alive when the aircraft went down.

"We have performed autopsies on six people. Our conclusion is they had circulation and were breathing at the time of death," Koutsaftis said, but he added they could have been unconscious.

French experts will examine the plane's black-box recorders, officials said.

The cause of Sunday's crash, Greece's deadliest airline disaster, appeared to be technical failure resulting in high-altitude decompression and loss of oxygen. Yet many questions remained, including why the co-pilot was unconscious in the cockpit 40 minutes before the crash and why he was alone, with the captain nowhere in sight.

The captain's body has yet to be recovered, and Greek investigators - joined by a U.S. team - were trying to determine why he was not in his seat while the Boeing 737 was in peril.

Coroners also will examine blood and tissue samples from victims' lungs to determine whether anything they breathed in could have caused their deaths.

"We will seek to determine when they died and how they died," chief Koutsaftis said earlier.

Victims' relatives gathered at a central Athens morgue to identify the remains.

There had been 21 children aboard Helios Airways flight ZU522 from Larnaca, Cyprus, to Athens, "all aged four and above," Greek deputy Health Minister Giorgos Constantopoulos said Monday. Initially, Greek and Cypriot officials had said 48 children were on the plane. No explanation was given for the discrepancy.

According the Cypriot government, at least 10 families with children were among the dead. Passengers and crew included at least 12 Greeks, one German - the pilot - and a four-member family of Armenian origin. The rest were Cypriot.

Police in northern Greece also arrested a man who claimed to have received a telephone text message from his cousin who was on the plane before it crashed.

The man, who was identified as 32-year-old Nektarios-Sotirios Voutas, called Greek television stations shortly after the Helios Airways flight crashed, saying his cousin Nikos Petridis sent him a message that read: "Farewell, cousin, here we're frozen."

The report that the plane was cold was taken as a sign of decompression, but police in Thessaloniki said they had determined he was lying and the name Petridis was not on the Cypriot government's official list of victims.

Voutas, a resident of the northern port city of Thessaloniki who had identified himself to Greek media as Sotiris Voutas, faced charges of disseminating false information and causing a public disturbance, police said.

The Boeing 737 had been scheduled to continue to Prague, Czech Republic, after Athens. It crashed while on autopilot at 12:05 p.m. Sunday near Grammatiko, a scenic village 40 kilometres north of the Greek capital, apparently after running out of fuel.

Greek state television had quoted the Cyprus transport minister as saying the plane had decompression problems in the past. But a Helios representative said the plane had "no problems and was serviced just last week."

Searchers at the crash site were still looking for three bodies, firefighting officials said Monday - including the pilot. His name was Hans-Juergen Merten, 58, of Berlin, according to German authorities and his neighbours near the German capital's Schoenefeld airport.

The body of the Cypriot co-pilot, Pambos Haralambous, reportedly was found in the cockpit.

In Cyprus, Helios Airways chairman Andreas Drakos said the airline's crews were operating normally on Sunday, rejecting earlier reports that its pilots and crew were refusing to fly.

The head of the Greek airline safety committee, Akrivos Tsolakis, said that the two recovered black boxes - a data and cockpit voice recorder - would be sent to French air safety investigators for examination. The voice recorder was badly damaged by the crash and ensuing fire.

"It's in a bad state and, possibly, it won't give us the information we need," Tsolakis said. "Both boxes will be sent to Paris where a French committee will help us and the foreign experts that are here to decode."

He said he believed his committee would be able to reach a conclusion "in a few days, a very few days."

U.S. experts will join Greek investigators on request by the American government because the aircraft was manufactured in the United States, Tsolakis said.

The plane took off from Cyprus at 9 a.m. Sunday. About a half-hour later, the pilots reported air-conditioning system problems to Cyprus air-traffic control. Within minutes, the plane entered Greek airspace over the Aegean Sea and shortly afterward lost all radio contact.

The Greek air force sent two F-16s fighter jets to intercept the plane. They caught up with the airliner at 10,400 metres and peered inside the cockpit. The jet pilots saw the co-pilot slumped over the controls but could not see the captain, and oxygen masks were dangling inside, government spokesman Theodoros Roussopoulos said.

When the jets flew by a second time they saw two people possibly trying to take control of the plane; it was unclear if they were crew members or passengers. The plane crashed 40 minutes later.

"When a pilot has no communication with the control tower, the procedure dictates that other planes must accompany and help the plane land. Unfortunately, it appeared that the pilot was already dead as was, possibly, everyone else on the plane," Cyprus Transport Minister Haris Thrasou said.

At 10,400 metres (34,000 feet), the effects of depressurization are swift, said David Kaminski Morrow, of the British-based Air Transport Intelligence magazine.

"If the aircraft is at 30,000 feet (9,000 metres), you don't stay conscious for long, maybe 15 to 30 seconds," he said.

Cyprus declared three days of national mourning, and in Athens flags were ordered to fly at half-mast on Tuesday. A 40-day mourning period was declared in Paralymni, a Cypriot town of 10,000 that lost 16 of its residents on the plane.

© The Canadian Press, 2005

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Military Coup???

Mon, 15 Aug 2005 06:42:36 GMT

A current article first and a other view for counterpoint. What do you all think?

:
http://harmony.gnn.tv/blogs/8019/nuke_exercise_could_be_a_staged_nuclear_terror_attack
nuke exercise could be a staged nuclear terror attack

to follow up on the article i posted earlier today concerning the four star general who got suspended for supposedly having extra marital sex, i found an interesting article by alex jones about what might be the real reason that this guy got fired…
Four Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?
The head of Fort Monroe’s Training and Doctrine Command, four star general Kevin P. Byrnes, was fired Tuesday apparently for sexual misconduct according to official sources.
Other sources however have offered a different explanation for Byrnes’ dismissal which ties in with the Bush administration’s unpopular plan to attack Iran and the staged nuclear attack in the US which would provide the pretext to do so.
According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict.
Indications are that, much like popular opinion amongst the general public, half the military oppose the neo-con’s agenda and half support it.
Further revelations were imparted by journalist Leland Lehrman who appeared today on The Alex Jones Show.
Lehrman’s army sources, including a former Captain in intelligence, became outraged when they learned that the official story behind 9/11 was impossible.
They told Lehrman that the imminent Northcom nuclear terror exercise based in Charleston, S.C, where a nuclear warhead is smuggled off a ship and detonated, was originally intended to ‘go live’ – as in the drill would be used as the cover for a real false flag staged attack.
This website has relentlessly discussed similar style drills which took place on the morning of 9/11 and on the morning of 7/7 in London.
“Speculation exists that he had potentially discovered the fact that it was gonna go live and that he was trying to put a stop to it or also speculation indicates that he may be part of a military coup designed to prevent the ridiculous idea of doing a nuclear war with Iran, ” said Lehrman.
Lehrman said that other sources had told him all army leave had been cancelled from September 7th onwards, opening the possibility for war to be declared within that time frame.
Northcom officials also admitted to Lehrman that CNN had been using its situation room as a studio.
Earlier this week, Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.
American Conservative Magazine recently reported that Dick Cheney had given orders to immediately invade Iran after the next terror attack in the US, even if there was no evidence Iran was involved.
Government and media mouthpieces have been fearmongering for weeks about how a nuclear attack within the US is imminent.
Now would be the most opportune time for the Globalists to stage a major attack, as it would head off any potential indictments against the Bush administration for their involvement in illegally outing CIA agent Valerie Plame.
While rumors circulating about indictments having already taken place against Bush and Cheney should rightly be treated very carefully, the fact that there is an ongoing criminal investigation into the matter is something that’s admitted and shouldn’t be viewed as speculation.
Nuclear Terror Drill to Go Live? Let’s Hope Not
Mother Media | August 10, 2005
by R. Leland Lehrman
On June 29th, United States Northern Command (NORTHCOM) posted news of a nuclear terrorism drill on its website:: “Here’s the scenario…A seafaring vessel transporting a 10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off the ship to detonate it.” It went on to say that “Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV’s response to a nuclear detonation.” As Alex Jones of infowars.com and others have pointed out, terror “drills” are now known to be the favorite “cover story” for New World Order terrorist operations, as evidenced by the eerily accurate terrorism drills happening on both 9/11 and 7/7.
Recently, former CIA/DIA analyst Philip Giraldi has informed us that “Vice-President Cheney has tasked STRATCOM with “drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11- type terrorist attack on the United States” and that “the plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons.” Investigators and counter-intelligence specialists are concerned that this upcoming August nuclear terror scenario might go live to create the pretext for tactical nuclear war against Iran.
Mother Media contacted NORTHCOM Public Affairs this morning and learned that the Fort Monroe drill may begin tomorrow, 8/11. Mother Media hopes that mass awareness of New World Order methods could prevent the attacks, whether tomorrow, next week or next year.
In the course of the conversation with NORTHCOM Public Affairs, Mother Media also learned that CNN recently launched their military operations news special “Situation Room” from inside the NORTHCOM situation room in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Wolf Blitzer is the show’s famously hawkish and pro-Israel host. Imagine that – a new CNN “Situation Room” military focus news program debuts in NORTHCOM headquarters days prior to a nuclear terror drill. They’re not even bothering to pretend there’s separation between the press and the government anymore. CNN here makes it obvious that they are now the New World Order’s propaganda mouthpiece. At the war crimes trials, let’s not forget it.
Adding to the drama, the four-star commander of the Army’s Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC) at the Fort Monroe base where the nuclear terror drill is to occur, Kevin P. Byrnes was just relieved of his command amidst allegations of sexual misconduct. Veteran investigator Greg Szymanski has uncovered another plausible motive: “Sources close to the military who remain anonymous said Byrnes was part of a U.S. military faction discontented with the Bush administration war policies in Iraq and the potential for a nuclear disaster in Iran.
In an effort to stop the Bush administration in its tracks, sources say Byrnes was about to lead a coup against the hawks in the military and executive branch determined to lead America into a global conflict, leading to devastating ramifications for the country, as well as financial and social chaos.
Rumors inside the military say that a growing faction of discontented high-ranking officers are attempting internally to try and stop the Bush administration’s imminent plans for war with Iran in an effort to avert global war.
Although the exact number of high-ranking military involved is undetermined, sources have disclosed it appears to be evenly split between pro Bush and anti Bush factions.
Even though speculation abounds about an attempted coup relating to the Byrnes firing, no one would question the strange rumblings of war against Iran and warnings of terrorist threats on the homeland that are beginning to circulate from administration officials and media talking heads almost on a daily basis.
Further, ominous reports are even coming from the Washington Post this week that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the United States, plans justifying and making necessary preparations for martial law in case of a homeland terrorist attack.”
If you look at NORTHCOM’s website, you will find a discussion of the situations under which Posse Comitatus, the restriction against military policing in America, can legally be suspended. One of those conditions is an attack by a nuclear or other weapon of mass destruction. Another is “insurrection.”
Diabolically standing over all of these scenarios is Global Cleanse 2000 or just Global 2000, a population control methodology developed by the New World Order which includes triggered natural disasters, wars and diseases designed to reduce the world population by two thirds. Rene Welch, who had access to the Global Cleanse 2000 database in the late eighties, recently appeared on Mother Media’s radio program to discuss her findings.
In response to this author’s article, Israel, Iran and a Nuclear False Flag Attack, reports have been flowing into Mother Media’s office confirming and buttressing this story. One former Air Force member writes that all military leaves have been cancelled after September 7th and that Homeland Security is beefing up security at local Draft Board Offices. Writing as TeaParty2Come, this source paints an ominous picture:
“About 3 weeks ago I was surfing some of the sites I enjoy posting on, when someone posted in all caps that they had just heard from an officer friend in the military that all leaves had been cancelled for the month of September. Obviously aware of the false flags our government is famous for, this person sounded desperate, asking for help in confirming or denying this “rumor” from anyone who had connections in the military.
I happened to ask a co-worker friend of mine whose son in-law is in the Army (82nd) about checking out the “rumor”. Well guess what, they’ve had to move up their leave to this coming week to come home because his unit has to be back by September 7th where upon all leaves are cancelled! They have seen a steady build up of heavy materials just sitting in storage facilities. He also commented that they were rushed through a training course on new weapons systems they just rolled out. He thought this very odd and a first.
This sent shivers all through me.
Not to push any panic buttons I spoke with a dear woman with whom I work whose son is in the Army in an artillery unit. She is a former Captain, her husband is a former Colonel and Vietnam vet and successful attorney here in our area who also happens to be dying from the effects of Agent Orange. Lo and behold their son was told all leaves are cancelled for September and in December they may get leave, but can travel no further than 17 kilometers from their base.
My niece is married to a young man in the Army stationed on the East Coast he is also 82nd, his leave has also been cancelled. Their first baby is due in December.
...I’m not prone to fits of paranoia but I have to tell you, I have begun stocking water and canned goods. I am ex Air Force, I was on three ring standby most of my enlistment and was in a constant training mode. I know how this works and it doesn’t sound good.
The draft board offices are in place with staff waiting for the word to go. I read an article from a guy who works in one of those offices, he said Homeland Security came in there early last month and put up bullet proof glass on the windows and iron bars, they installed blast proof glass on the doors, and removed the mail drop box slots on the outside of the building. When he asked what was going on they identified themselves as Homeland Security and said don’t worry about the rest and left.
It’s coming no doubt about it. Sorry I can’t be more positive, but this is what I have heard with my own ears from three independent military member sources in different parts of the country.”
A source in New Mexico passed this on to Mother Media a couple weeks ago:
“A friend came by today. His relative is fairly high-level in regional counter-terrorism. My friend says his relative told him they are preparing for the strong possibility that there will be 7 U.S. cities attacked with small, backpack-held nuclear devices by ‘al-Qaida types.’ It sounds like the propaganda—the cover stories for PNAC or whomever these bad guys are—has begun.”
The sheer number of warnings and events, subtle hints and overt threats is now too much to ignore. More background and warning signs, especially as regards Israel and Iran can be found in my article at physics911.net entitled Israel, Iran, Mossad and a Nuclear False Flag Attack. Americans should alert friends and family members and active citizens should inform their neighbors and local authorities. Mother Media has contacted FBI counterintelligence director David Szady, who is in charge of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee spying investigation, with some this information and plans to distribute it widely throughout the local, national and international media. An FBI investigation directed by Szady caught AIPAC using Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin to spy on America’s Iran policy and more. Given that AIPAC is committed to war with Iran, we can imagine why they were interested in official American policy on Iran. It is still possible to stop this insanity, but it will require serious citizen initiative.

Now the other:
LibertyPost.org
Title: United States Military Forces Begin Coup, Top US General Arrested By Anti-Coup Factions, Russian andSource: What does it meanURL Source: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index796.htmPublished: Aug 09, 2005Author: Sorcha FaalPost Date: 2005-08-11 00:47:15 by poitiers18 CommentsAll right, time for conspiracy fun: Russian Intelligence Analysts are reporting this evening that an apparent coup is taking place in the United States and that both Russian and Chinese Forces have been ordered to their highest non-nuclear defense status. This troubling news comes on the eve of joint Military exercises previously planned between both Russian and China, and as we can read as reported by the Guardian Unlimited News Service in their article titled "China and Russia flex their muscles as they join forces to play the war game " and which says; "Next week will see far larger war games involving Chinese and Russian troops in and around the Shandong peninsula in the Yellow sea. Regional observers say such military cooperation is unprecedented and could mark the start of something new. "The China-Russia exercise is intended to send a message to Taiwan," said Andrew Yang of the Chinese Council of Advanced Policy Studies in Taipei. "But it's also a very significant move in terms of the developing relationship between Russia and China and joint efforts to manage regional security. "China considers it's time to increase strategic cooperation with Russia to balance the US role in the region. Both are interested in demonstrating this is a multipolar rather than a unipolar world," Dr Yang said." One of the Coup Leaders in the United States, General Kevin P. Byrnes, and who is also one of their top Military Generals, has been arrested and taken prisoner by US Counter-Coup Forces, and as we can read as reported by the Newsday News Service in their article titled “Senior general is relieved of duties at commander of key Army training organization" and which says; "The Army, in a rare disciplinary act against a four-star officer, said Tuesday it relieved Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes of his command after a Pentagon investigation into unspecified "personal conduct." Byrnes, a native of New York City, was relieved as commander of U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command on Monday by Army Chief of Staff Gen. Peter Schoomaker, according to a brief statement issued by Army headquarters at the Pentagon." Russian Military Analysts are further reporting that US Military Forces still loyal to General Byrnes and the other Coup Leaders are continuing their preparations and as evidenced by a number of large scale Military movements within the Continental United States Regions. These reports further state that the Coup Leaders efforts are being hampered by the ordering last week of 7 Armor Brigades loyal to the Coup Leaders to depart immediately to the Iraqi War Zone. Speculation behind the reasons leading to these Coup Leader efforts centers upon the belief within the American Military Establishment that war with Iran is imminent and all that remains is the ‘triggering event’ forecast by many World Intelligence Organizations to occur this month in the United States. Like the rest of the world knows, should the American Coup Leaders fail in their efforts Total Global War will be the result of any American attack upon Iran, and as exampled by yesterdays article from the Uruknet News Service in their article titled "Why Iran will lead to World War 3 " and which says; "In the short term, however, the plan is fraught with difficulties. At present, there is no wiggle room in the world’s oil supply for massive disruptions and most experts are predicting shortages in the 4th quarter of this year. If the administration’s war on Iran goes forward we will see a shock to the world’s oil supplies and economies that could be catastrophic. That being the case, a report that was leaked last week that Dick Cheney had STRATCOM (Strategic Command) draw up “contingency plans for a tactical nuclear war against Iran”, is probably a bit of brinksmanship intended to dissuade Iran from striking back and escalating the conflict. It makes no difference. If Iran is attacked they will retaliate; that much is certain. It is always the mistake of extremists to misjudge the behavior of reasonable men; just as it is always the mistake of reasonable men to mistake the behavior of extremists. We should not expect the Bush administration to make a rational choice; that would be a dramatic departure from every preceding decision of consequence. The President of the United States always has the option of unleashing Armageddon if he so chooses. Normally, however, sanity prevails. When the bombs hit the bunkers in Iran; World War 3 will be underway." To the outcome of these present events we are not in the knowing, other than to state that should these American Military Coup Leaders fail the result will be Total Global War. To the American President’s position as to which side of the Coup he is supporting there is also much speculation due to his fleeing of the United States to Saudi Arabia, and which we had previously reported on in our August 8th report titled "Bush Flees United States for Saudi Arabia as Israel Accelerates Attack Timetable in Continuing Secret War with America, US Prepares For Martial Law ". Russian FSB also reports that the American Presidents demand to the Saudi King that all monies belonging to the Bush Family through their many Saudi linked companies be returned has been granted, and as we can read as reported by the United Press International News Service in their article titled "Saudis to retrieve $360 billion abroad " and which says, "Saudi Arabia said Sunday it was working to bring back to the kingdom a total of $360 billion invested abroad in the last 18 months." The FSB further reports the Saudi payment of these debts to the Bush Family were made in gold reserves and which are now in the process of being returned to the United States by the American President and his family members who accompanied him to Saudi Arabia. To the American peoples themselves not knowing of how these Coups work themselves out their remains the ominous possibility that we had reported on yesterday that they will be placed under Martial Law, and to which their Military Leaders have already prepared for, and as we can read as reported by the WSWS News Service in their article titled "Pentagon devising scenarios for martial law in US " and which says; "As for the claims that these military plans are driven by genuine concern over the threat of terrorist attacks, these are belied by the actual conduct of the American ruling elite since 9/11. The Bush administration has done everything possible to suppress any investigation into the circumstances of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon—most likely because its own negligence, possibly deliberate, would be exposed. While the Pentagon claims that its plans are a response to the danger of nuclear, biological or chemical attacks, no serious practical measures have been taken to forestall such attacks or minimize their impact. The Bush administration and Congress have refused even to restrict the movement of rail tank cars loaded with toxic chemicals through the US capital, though even an accidental leak, let alone a terrorist attack, would cause mass casualties. In relation to bioterrorism, the Defense Science Board determined in a 2000 study that the federal government had only 1 of the 57 drugs, vaccines and diagnostic tools required to deal with such an attack. According to a report in the Washington Post August 7, in the five years since the Pentagon report, only one additional resource has been developed, bringing the total to 2 out of 57. Drug companies have simply refused to conduct the research required to find antidotes to anthrax and other potential toxins, and the Bush administration has done nothing to compel them. As for the danger of nuclear or “dirty-bomb” attacks, the Bush administration and the congressional Republican leadership recently rammed through a measure loosening restrictions on exports of radioactive substances, at the behest of a Canadian-based manufacturer of medical supplies which conducted a well-financed lobbying campaign. Evidently, the administration and the corporate elite which it represents do not take seriously their own warnings about the imminent threat of terrorist attacks using nuclear, chemical or biological weapons—at least not when it comes to security measures that would impact corporate profits. The anti-terrorism scare has a propaganda purpose: to manipulate the American people and induce the public to accept drastic inroads against democratic rights. As the Pentagon planning suggests, the American working class faces the danger of some form of military-police dictatorship in the United States." The devastating suddenness of all of these events will no doubt stun these Americans, who even in these last hours, and before total madness strikes, continue to ignore the very world they live in, and whom their Military Leaders are driving towards the abyss.

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Greetings to all!

Mon, 08 Aug 2005 03:45:31 GMT

Hi ,

New here but I have a question for some here who may remember. Anyone think that Marilyn Monroe was murdered? I do., but just wanted to see what you think!

~c~

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Cookies. How long has this been going on?

solarhand — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:53:53 GMT

I having been watching cookies and the signature they leave on a cell membrane.
Cookies, on the computer, drop a little bit of info into your computer, resulting in a channel into the your computer.
Once inside, this cookie, can participate in the computers programming and send information back or away from the host.
This also happens to our consciousness as well. All day long people try to drop cookies into our mind so they can predict our behavior.
It usually boils down to this:
There is a conglomerate of cells that work together and are trying to get your attention(another conglomerate of cells) and predict your behavior.
One big conglomeration seems to want the human population to devote its intentions and resources to shopping, labor , medication or watching a screen( like television or windshields, or cell cameras.)

There is only one grand conspiracy;
who is going to create your reality?
You or some one else?

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My first time...

Trinity — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:00:07 GMT

When I was around 6 my mother gave me alot of grief because I was too "lazy" to use toothpaste when I brushed my teeth. I brushed them, with my toothbrush and water...you know, to get the fur off;) Anywho, my teeth were white and I had no cavities. My brothers were yellow and he had three cavities. When my mother started watching to make sure I used toothpaste, my teeth got yellower too and I finally got my first cavity...coincidence? I thought not. I saw the ADA approval crap on the back and immediately came to the conclusion that dentists put sugar into toothpaste to rot teeth and keep themselves in business.

That was my first conspiracy theory.

What was yours?

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7/7 bombings

Carol — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:21:27 GMT

Found this on another Tribe.

www.propagandamatrix.com/artic...july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm

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do you think?

lastmammamouse — Wed, 06 Jul 2005 07:56:19 GMT

Ok this may be out there.
I feel the government is trying to elliminate the poor in the USA.
I feel they think we are discardable. Assets to play around with and experiment with. Ever notice when something big happens it usually is the poor who are the victims not the rich.
No offence to anybody.

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Conspiracy theory No. 1.$5million US reward for Roswell file.

zargon — Fri, 27 May 2005 17:30:43 GMT

Roswell 1947. Right?
New evisence,Eye witness comes forward to testify under oath...
Interested,or are the hundred million web sites on the subject too boring.
Get Governor Arnold Shwartzneggers opinion on it and win someloose change,or maybe this is a conspiracy to make you rich.Ha.

Join in the fun.Join my forum.

Zargon - friendly/

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WHY?

maryanne — Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:32:50 GMT

I just saw the listing for this tribe so ive just joined to ask why in the world have you started this tribe when a conspiracy tribe already exists? I guess its a power play...Susan wants her own tribe...fair enough....I wanted my own tribe re: ge food. I had my reason. What's yours ?

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A New Thought

Tiger_Lily — Fri, 27 May 2005 20:28:40 GMT

Ok, here's one.

We all have heard that Social Security is going to crap out in another decade or two, correct? So, what are the Boomers looking forward to (if not experiencing already)?

Increasing cancer, obesity and related illnesses and AIDS.

You make the call.

D.

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Rosswell 1947,,Horror story coverup.

zargon — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:57:38 GMT

Thank you for that information IONA.

I haven't read the report you advert to but would like to one day.
You may notice from that report though that two "aliens" survived.

I tell you that one is me and the other was one of my co-pilot.
The markings and distortions on the corpses of the casualties were the result of distortions and trauma produced by impact after coming to earth from faster than light speeds.

President Truman was not being unduly cautious ,or unfair of his suspicians about the veracity and integrity of the personnel he requested information from. He knew about me and my flight.He just wanted to see what those lying Bsds said about it.

America has been set back by half a century because of their lies.

I tell you truthfully that there IS a flying saucer at Kirtland airforce base or was there as late as Jan 1990 ,that only I can access it or fly it and that I have been trying to do so through proper channels and by proper means for some time, receiving no replies whatsoever.

I'm ready to testify under oath as to my involvement,and I know why there are people who don't want that to happen and I know why.
To do so would reveal to America the totally lunatic and inhumane response that some members of the guards there displayed to me and my copilot. Unwarranted Hysterical brutality.

They tried to rape my copilot and they forced me to leave the area. so they could steal my vehicle.

I thought that with time more humane and intelligent people would examine the situation and redress the grievance I have about it,but very apparently,not.

I urge you to get a full inquiry going before it's too late.
It's not right that my copilots remain unburied. We were innocent victims of a mishap,not invaders.

What would be the reaction of the American public if American astronauts on an exploratory goodwill mission to the planet mars crashlanded on the planet and when they asked for help they were attacked without any provocation,their lives threatened and they were forced to wander aimlessly over the planet waiting for someone with enough decency to help them.Their vehicle stolen and a whole bunch of lies published about them so no-one would even believe they existed?Their casualties corpses placed in pickle jars and burial denied?

Think about it and then tell me if you really deserve any consideration of being described as civilized or human.

I want my vehicle at Kirtland airforce base returned to me at the port authority w 42nd st and 9th ave New York for all the people to see, by 9am June 6 2005.
If that's done then I'll let bye gones be bye gones.Forget about it.

If not.Well,You'll never get to mars.Forget about it. I'll withdraw support for any exploratory missions into outer space,I'll remove the mars bug from the planet, and I'll give you the same treatment that you give me now.
The Golden Rule being "do unto other as you would have them do unto you" and you treating me this way,I'll ignore you too.
That's My way of waging War against pestilent creatures calling themselves "civilized"

You can't say I haven't told you. I've made it clear enough.Prove yourselves now or suffer.

Give me back my vehicle.It's useless to you.Only I can access its interior or fly it,and it's indestructable.

I'm waiting-earthlinks. Are you any different now to then?

Heaven Won't help you if you're not !

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Conspiracy Theory No 2.

zargon — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:37:00 GMT

refer to conspiracy thoery No 1.

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War game.

zargon — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:40:40 GMT

I'm about to start a war game.Middle east theatre.Anyone interested in joining in?

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YOU are conspiring,Aren't you !

zargon — Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:13:26 GMT

I knew it.Conspiracy "Theories" YOU'RE conspiring to get my flying saucer from Kirtland airfoece base are'nt you!
YOU"LL NEVER SUCCEED !
The USMC is guarding it at the small utilities room at the very back of the empty technicians shed about fift yards from the Wyomming entrance, Ha, Only I can access or fly it,so how are you going to get it off the base? Ha? smarties.
Put a canopy over it and pass through the front gates pretending its a toy or something? Ha!
It'll NEVER work.
No five million dollars reward for you. C.O.D delivered to the Port Authority w42nd st entrance cnr 9th aveune New york EVER.
So DO NOT CONSPIRE TO DO IT.
It's BETTER being poor and clever as you are.Bye.

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Roswell revealed and more!!!

aleksonder — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 03:34:04 GMT

The cat is out of the bag now...

www.raidersnewsupdate.com/flynn.htm

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conspiracy theory 3 D.

zargon — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:30:02 GMT

I hope that submitting theories about conspiracies isn't ANNOYING THE "conspiracy theories"tribe.
It looks to me that a lot of the so called "public tribes"are really conspiracies to establish private entrapments of the public to ridule hatred and contempt.
What do you think?
Hello? T.H.I.N.K...

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when Earth fought back

ionamiller — Sat, 21 May 2005 16:11:44 GMT

Greetings you good souls,

I just returned from this year's Nexus Conference in Amsterdam, which included an informative presentation by Linda Moulton Howe, of the Art Bell show in all its formats. I had a few short questions for her which I would like to share.

Last year there was an incident she reported in my area, within a mile of my residence - what I thought was perhaps an unusual one of its kind. It was a deer mutilation, where the deer was found in a small swirled crop circle with no particular artistic merit or design. This was the first time I noticed the animal returned in a sort of "bullseye" fashion. Also, it occured with tremendous stealth while the resident family was close by gardening - in other words, they heard nor saw nothing - though the spot had been clear shortly before their heinous discovery.

I wondered if this deer mute represented an escalation to other species. Linda informed me that the first mutes were most common, not in cows, but among sheep and elk. On one of her first forays, she was at a site where no one noticed some 60 swirled circles in the field surrounding the dead carcasses until they got a helicopter in and shot the aerials.

In her talk, she pulled together a variety of classic sightings with a plausible link. She said that beginning with the LA sighting during WWII where many rounds of artillery were fired at the disc without effect, the US military had a policy of attacking saucers as their origin was unknown and considered hostile. This policy remained in effect and was the cause of the crashes not only at Roswell, but also at Aztec and Corona. That accusation alone is hardly startling, given the bunkered mentality of the time...Earth attacks. We tried to fight back.

She spoke of an interview she did in New Mexico a few years back with a rancher who happened to know Brazel coincidentally-- and he revealed to her that there was a "Terrible secret" associated with the recovered craft. That secret, she surmised is that the entire disc was lined inside with drawers full of grisly excised animal and human body parts. The same was evident at the Roswell crash site, though it was not reported.

This so frightened the Truman administration that a gag order was put on those involved, as we know, and the policy of denial, secrecy, and misdirection was instituted and maintained. This was based on the devastating reaction of the public to Orson Well's War of the Worlds broadcast.

So what is new about all this, which you may have presumed or pieced together on your own?

Linda researched the airline and military safety records of the time and found anomalous sharp spikes in the number of US flight crashes -- an extraordinary increase unwarrented by other causes. A huge amount of civilian lives were lost -- enough to change the policy of overtly attacking saucers. Apparently the aliens were going to go about their business one way or another, and wanted carte blanche to do so and continue their genetic and biological research unmolested. They fought back.

The Roswell cover story of the Mogul balloon is also correct, in that when the saucer was shot down, the balloon came down with it...and portions of both were retrieved as described. All the saucers shot down in the vicinity of atomic testing revealed the same grissly project which apparently continues to this day, with the addition of abduction phenomena.

The US stepped back on its defensive policy, fearing retailiation beyond its wildest dreams. It is this link of our attacks on saucers which connects many classic UFO stories, and connects them with mutilation events.

Linda particularly wanted to respond to the perception that no one in mainstream media has brought UFO related stories to the public. She is a Stanford University communications graduate with a long list of documentary and production awards, including Emmy's and certainly considers herself part of mainstream media. She said she never IMAGINED when she did her first casual little cattle mute mystery story that it would escalate and become perhaps the biggest story the world has ever known.

She divulged one bit of "secret" data that has been witheld by the investigative community at large until now, regarding mutilated corpses of all species ~ there is always an extraction of two teeth from a particular place in the jaw. This, of course, would not be the case for mutilations by predator species. It is a sign experienced investigators look for to authenticate cases.

Linda, herself, an otherwise experienced media communicator began her talk with a quavering in her voice that was in marked contrast with the other speakers. Was she personally disturbed or fearful of what she was about to disclose publically? Even though she is an experienced broadcaster she claims that she always has this extreme case of nerves before she begins to speak, much like a performer who heaves before each performance. She did not settle down entirely through her whole disturbing talk.

As always, as a therapist, I am AS interested in the human side of things, as well as the content of the talk. Linda is the Nexus of a collection of forces which few human beings have had to bear in the course of history. She is priviledged and cursed with knowledge that would be difficult for anyone to carry.

Not only must she contend with outrageous deeds perpetrated by alien creatures on mankind, she is subject to a variety of attacks by human beings ~ political and social pressures, whispering campaigns behind her back by the envious and diabolically manipulative, and the normal pressures of a career which keeps her at peak activity.

She has born more than any human being should be called upon to bear, and for that my heart goes out to her. Who among us would want to be in that position of collective knowledge and responsibility to deliver the Truth? In that sense, she is an unsung hero, walking point for human evolution and the Big Picture of what it means to be alive in our Universe.

If we look at the arc of other great voices in her field, such as Bill Cooper and Dr. John Mack, we are struck with the fact that surely she is forced to continue in the public eye, as that is likely her greatest protection even though it continually exposes her to more hideous information and pressures.

She quietly admits behind the scenes that she was given information she has chosen NOT to share, and imagines that this is the ONLY reason she has not been taken out of the equation. She is a warrior who's courage on the front lines is rare, indeed. She characterizes herself as caught in the middle of a raging war of different species of aliens among themselves, much less against mankind. And it is a war for which we do not even have a name.

Some of you may have been unwillingly recruited into this same war, though not voluntarily. You may be nameless, but your contribution, your willingness to stand up for the human spirit with soulful resolution against imponderable forces is no less important than her contribution.

We live in a time that is a war for the minds, hearts and souls of mankind and it is our spiritual duty to remain stalwart and of firm resolve to protect our essential nature, come what may. Toward this end, I offer you my blessings and support in whatever way I can.

Come what may, we must continue to focus on the positive, on our native warmth, empathy and affection for one another, and on a future that allows us to assume a co-creative place among the lifeforms of the galaxies.

This leads directly into the talk given by Alfred Webre, a Canadian, who spoke on UFO disclosure and Exopolitics -- the institution of protocols for dealing with our entrance into the greater life of the universe, and the end of our evolutionary quarrantine. But, that is another story...

These and the other Nexus Conference 2005 talks will be available on DVD shortly from http://www.nexusmagazine.com
Draw your own conclusions.

You may also wish to read my own 1995 report on the abduction controvery on my core site: the Ionasphere.
http://zero-point.tripod.com/UFOs/UFO1.html
It is called 'Lost In Translation' and covers a therapeutic approach to abduction investigation and healing, of this little understood phenomena.

Iona

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R.I.P- earthlings.

zargon — Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:44:19 GMT

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Microbiologists dropping like flies

ionamiller — Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:13:53 GMT

Curiously, the world's microbiologists have developed their own personal epidemic of curious sudden deaths. No joke. Now another one bites the contaminated dust.
iona
http://biophysics.50megs.com

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/061505_world_stories.shtml#3

BACKGROUND BOOKS:
· RICHARD JANNACCIO, SELLING THE WEST NILE VIRUS VACCINE
· · THE SUNSHINE PROJECT
Biowarfare and "domestic violence"
Monday, June 13, 2005
In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.

Last week the body of Dr Leonid Strachunsky, described as "World Health Organization expert and head of the anti-microbe Therapy Research Institute," was found in his Moscow hotel room. He had arrived from Smolensk, en route to the United States, and died of blunt-force trauma to the head. (Some stories identify the murder weapon as a champagne bottle.) His laptop and mobile phone were missing.

According to MosNews, "some sources link Wednesday's murder of...Strachunsky, who specialized in creating microbes resistant to biological weapons, to [a] hepatitis outbreak" which, according to the latest report, has afflicted more than 500 people in Russia's Tver region. However, a Moscow police source tells Interfax that the murder was "probably domestic violence."

There's likely no intentionality behind the hepatitis outbreak. The Tver governor is probably right; it's nothing but "tainted food," just as last winter 120 children in North Ossetia were likely accidentally poisoned by contaminated milk, and the drops of mercury that Russians have found in fruit juice and candy are presumably isolated incidents of industrial sabotage. But there should be a degree of uncertainty about such stories in every nation that conducts bioweapons research, because its purpose is to hone the kill potential of the natural world, and researchers' test subjects have often been their fellow citizens.

Americans should know this. That most still don't - or do and don't care - makes me wonder, and not merely figuratively, what they're putting in the water.

And in the air, even. In the Fall of 1999, field tests began for a vaccine developed by OraVax Corporation, under license to the Army biowarfare lab at Fort Detrick (from which the anthrax of the attacks of 2001 was sourced), to a genetically-altered Japanese encephalitis virus the Army had created. Coincidentally encephalitis, in the form of West Nile Virus, also broke out in New York City.

Leonard Horowitz, in Death in the Air: Globalism, Terrorism and Toxic Warfare, cites the conclusions of researcher Patricia Doyle that "the sudden emergence of WNV, never before a public concern, was likely a deliberate release to 'test that city's biowarfare response, and make at least one corporation a sizable profit.'" (One year before becoming the exclusive manufacturer of WNV vaccine, OraVax had been delisted by NASDAQ, and was facing insolvency.)

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Interesting Web Site

Carol — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:36:39 GMT

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/noon.html

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Closer Contacts

truthgathering — Thu, 09 Jun 2005 01:28:46 GMT

Closer Contacts…
Meetings With Three Spacecraft
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Extracts from:
Meetings With Three Spacecraft.
By Michael Irving, of World-Action
http://www.michael-irving.com
http://www.michael-irving.com/meetings1.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/meetings2.html

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These are extracts:

1986 - February
My first face-to-craft meeting with a spacecraft (actually, THREE CRAFT).
----- I had just given my first one-day workshop, at March House, Ogbourne Saint George, near Marlborough, Wiltshire. It had gone well. On the Monday morning we had a group session with local psychic, Isabelle Kingston. This went well too, I was getting encouraging messages and ideas from all manner of people and places. My confidence was good. After Isy's session, I thought on my way back to Somerset I would call in at Warminster, a place well-known for UFO sightings, and check out whether 'ET' and UFOs really exist.
I drove through Warminster, up towards the start of the fenced-off, huge army training area of Salisbury Plain. I sat and just relaxed my mind. After a while I had the impression ET really did exist, so in my mind I said, "Don't bother coming out of your way to appear for me, you probably have far more important things to do". Then I switched on my engine and started driving back west towards Somerset.
After about ten minutes, I noticed a red light over to the north keeping pace with me, it was followed by a second red light, then a third red light. The next thing was they were veering towards me, then they went over my car at about 50 feet. I was excited. I swerved the car onto the grass verge, and got quickly out of the car. Three, disc craft, of approximately 23 feet in diameter were hovering close to me. They were at an elevation angle of approx 45 degrees, and were only about 60 feet away, i.e. they were VERY close! Around the mid section of each craft was a continuous line of windows. I did not see anyone at the windows, but I felt a communication coming from the ship; the communication did not come to my head and mind, but seemed to connect to the middle of my chest. This was undoubtedly a most wonderful experience.
The three craft started to move off, back to the south-east. I quickly got back into my car and accelerated off in the direction they had gone. A minute or two later I had caught up with them; looking up through the windscreen, the 3 craft were moving gently side-to-side as they progressed on their way. The road started going uphill, to the entrance to Longleat House. Looking across and downhill a little, I saw the 3 craft going past the foot of Cley Hill, at this time a little, white light came up behind the group of three, and entered the trailing disc craft.
We parted company as I drove through Warminster. I felt I had to go to where I had been parked in my car half an hour before. True enough. The three disc craft were there; they were 100 yards from where I had been parked when I sent them my telepathic message. They were circling a stand of trees, flying beautiful, slow circles around these tall trees.

1988 - July?
I drew a FIVE-circled, Celtic Cross pattern on paper, then that night it flashed at me!
The next night Mary Freeman saw a large spaceship with beam of light at Avebury. (Reported in detail in the 'Marlborough Times' newspaper, Wiltshire, England).
The next day a glorious FIVE-circled Crop Pattern was found at Silbury Hill.
----- One evening, in the summer of 1988, I drew five circles on a piece of paper, to form a Celtic Cross, this is four in a square diamond shape, with the fifth circle placed at the centre. I pinned it on my wall; looking up, later, the five circles appeared to flash at me, fairly vividly.
The following day I drove to Warminster, to visit the place where I had met with the three disc craft in 1986, I drove past Silbury Hill en route to Warminster, then past Silbury Hill again on the way back. When I got back to Ogbourne Saint George, Heather told me a fantastic, five-circled crop pattern had been reported close to Silbury Hill. I drove towards Silbury for the third time that day, and spotted many cars parked on the A4. I climbed up Silbury Hill and sat on the southern edge with many people. Below was a wonderful glinting and burnished set of five circles, making an impressive Celtic Cross (or 'quincunx').
The following week there was a dramatic report in the Marlborough newspaper. It said that late one evening Mary Freeman was driving out of Avebury after visiting friends, things started to fly off her dashboard, looking up she saw, low in the sky and stationary, a large discoid craft, perhaps 100 feet in length. Coming from the craft, and directed down in the direction of Silbury Hill, was a strong beam of light or energy.

1988
My eye exploded for the third time.
----- This awful eye episode lasted three or four weeks. Hell.

However, I had this insight ..................

Insight into a massive 'Atlantis Ending' trauma - applicable to many people I knew.
----- Living in the flat in the top of March House, Ogbourne St. George, my left eye exploded for the third time. Agony. My whole nervous system throughout my body burned. I stood in the bath to run cold water over my burning ankles and feet. This went on for weeks. It was as if a red-hot poker was in my left eye. One night, while standing in the bath, I started going over in my mind the names of scores of alternative therapists I was acquainted with in the U.K. I think I listed well over 100 people. A realisation, or intuition, came to me that all of these people were traumatised from the catastrophic ending of a civilisation on Earth several thousand years ago. (I had further evidence of this catastrophic trauma within most people, in 1995). I had the realisation this was a deeply buried trauma in many people and was so strong it had a very restricting effect on people's consciousness and on their potential to feel alive.

TOTAL RECALL - 'They stole his mind, now he wants it back again'.
----- Somewhere around this time, I had the film 'Total Recall', starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. In the film there was a colony on Mars. The hero had an implant and an artificial life had been set up for him in order he would forget crucial things he had experienced. But he fights to become conscious; and as an analogy to life on Earth right now where so many people are semi- catatonic, he restores a natural air system to the people on Mars, and people are set free from the dictatorial corporation controlling life on Mars.
On the plastic cover of the Total Recall video were these words: 'They stole his mind, now he wants it back again'. I copied these words off onto a piece of paper and carried them with me for many years. If you read the next several years of my life, you will begin to see why these words are so important.

1989 - November
Back 'down' the Saint Michael Leyline to live near Glastonbury.
----- I found a lovely little cottage, in a winding road called 'Watery Lane', in the locale of Lower Westholme, near Pilton - five miles from Glastonbury Tor. I had some of the loveliest time I had had for a long time cycling and walking these lanes and low hills. It was good to be on my own for awhile.
----- See the book 'The Sun and The Serpent', by Hamish Miller & Paul Broadhurst.
http://www.celticlunarmysteries.com/recbooks.htm
(May 2005: This website seems to have JUST disappeared! Perhaps it will reappear.)

1990
The Clifton Suspension Bridge incident. The Marconi 'Suicides'.
----- Fortunately the Clifton Suspension Bridge incident, for me, never happened. But it nearly happened, and it did happen for others. For around six or so hours I suddenly had the idea that it would be great if I drove to the Clifton Suspension Bridge, in Bristol, and jumped from the bridge. This would be certain death. However, to go and jump off the bridge was a very powerful idea which had come into my mind. Something was telling me that this wasn't a good thing to do, so I phoned up a couple of friends and asked them what they thought. The same thing happened with both people, first they seemed to tell me it was a bad idea, but then they seemed to go on and finish by saying it was a good idea. My brain, in some way, seemed to be reversing my ability to assess right and wrong. Something else came up that I suddenly had to concentrate on, and this distracted me. But for two or three hours I was very near to driving to Bristol and jumping to my death.
I had an insight or two into this several years later .........

Insight 1) The Marconi 'Suicides'.
----- When my world was falling apart around 1995 and 1996, I had two magazines which helped keep me sane. One was Nexus magazine. And the other was the U.K.'s UFO Magazine. UFO Magazine brought out special issues, covering specific research in detail. One research subject was 'The Marconi Suicides'. This report looked at the apparent suicides, around 1985 to the early 1990s, of approx. 16 scientists and technicians who may all have been connected with the 'Star Wars' project. Many of the deaths were gruesome. One scientist filled his car with cans of petrol and drove full speed into an abandoned cafe, exploding. Another tied long rope around a tree and around his neck, then drove off at full speed. Two scientists or technicians died at the Clifton Suspension Bridge. Two cups were found in one of the men's cars. This was all happening over the time period in which I nearly drove to this bridge, on a very weird impulse. What did I have in common with 'Star Wars' designers? Perhaps we both knew things which the general public is not supposed to know.

Insight 2) The Crop Pattern hoaxing and cover-up
----- Very soon, the 'crop pattern world' was about to be hit. There were suspicious people intermingling with the real crop pattern enthusiasts, and these odd people seemed intent on causing division and argument. Hoaxing of crop patterns was increasing. The key crop pattern researchers were set up in a humiliating situation, with media coverage, which totally soured one person at least, Pat Delgado. Colin Andrews was soon to be visited in the night by a man who seemed to speak with authority, who told Colin that his life would change from that point, and it did. Colin Andrews never made his expected declaration that his research showed the authentic crop patterns were a message from other intelligences who share our universe with us. Colin was also told that other people linked in with the crop pattern phenomenon would be, one by one, 'taken out'. 'Taken out' is what I think was happening to me. I was nearly losing my left eye, nearly lost my life, and very soon I was to lose the friendship of quite a few people who were close to me.
Some of the sabotage of crop patterns and crop pattern enthusiasts was traced back to a fenced-off 'farm', very close to where I was living when I got the mad 'Clifton Suspension Bridge' impulse. In fact I was only about five miles from this 'farm'. What equipment did they have at the farm - did this equipment connect up to the 'Star Wars' satellites? The Star Wars project was completed. There are all manner of satellites (and stealth 'black triangle' craft) up there, in orbit, but we don't know what they are doing or what they are capable of doing.
For more data on the tricks that were played to try to discredit the Crop Pattern phenomenon, see this wonderful book: 'Cosmic Connection: Worldwide Crop Formations and ET Contacts', by Michael Hesemann, first published 1995. My copy is back in the UK and I am presently in North America, otherwise I would reproduce some key facts here; such as on the 'farm' near Shepton Mallett. A lot of dirty tricks were played to try to tarnish a wonderful subject.
And see: http://www.michael-irving.com/conspire.html

1992 - Dec 25 to Jan 1
Rainbow Dream Vision magazine, and THREE CRAFT over Mexico City.
----- See this detailed, extraordinary report: http://www.rense.com/ufo5/mexr.htm
For the January 1st, 1992, report, go over half way down webpage to: 'The Third Wave'.

1993 - Mid 1993
What world was I in?
----- Sessions with at least two clairvoyants, past-life memories, spaceships flying around, attempts on my life .....
what world was I in? Help!

1993 - Spring
Lived with clairvoyant, Dawn Webb, for three months... Sitting Bull / ETs / Arthurian.
----- This was exciting. Dawn seemed to communicate a lot of interesting information from some other realm. I wrote it all down in a big, blue note book. To begin with the information seemed very genuine. Then I seemed to notice hints that soon I should leave dawn. Indeed, Dawn seemed to be changing character, she seemed to take on the character, in her daily life, of one or two of the characters she was channeling. Dawn told me that she was regularly abused by her father when she was very young, with her mother's knowledge. I think this gave her a split personality. Sometimes she was pretty horrible, and other times nice. [I had never really seen this in a person before. Karen seemed to have a divided mind (her father, ex-merchant navy, was very rough with her as a child), but her mood was generally level; it was just her sudden changes of mind which seemed odd.]
Dawn was channeling all manner of things which felt genuine, seemed to be coming from a good place, and had quite a deep and good effect on me. There was information about an Arthurian connection I had; this seemed remarkable and encouraging. Then there was a lot to do with Sitting Bull, and the mythological native figure, White Buffalo Calf Woman. With WBCW, I felt I could see her form start to twinkle in the room just before Dawn announced she had arrived. (This was the same experience I had with my mother appearing at sessions with Isabelle). This all seemed very meaningful and wonderful, there appeared to be nothing nasty about any of it. And at the time, as we drove around the countryside we were seeing some remarkable things. One thing we were told was 'Many things are not as they seem', and this was being proven true on a few occasions.
[We seemed, however, to get to a point where Dawn seemed to start to be taken over by something which was not so good. Maybe bad forces were trying to come in on similar frequencies and thought patterns that the good forces were using. Like two different people grabbing a loud hailer off each other so they can shout through it.]

1993 - Early May
Dramatic rendezvous with extremely low-flying Spacecraft near Alton Barnes, Wiltshire.
----- In messages received by Dawn, and written down by me, in April, we were told there would be a rendezvous with a spacecraft on the night of the full moon in early May. The way things were feeling to me, this seemed extremely likely. On the day of the full moon, we were in London with some of Dawn's friends; they were very strange people. As we got up onto the M4, in the heart of London, I saw a vivid light to the west, very low, near Heathrow airport. It took us 10 minutes to drive there, and the light stayed constant. When we were at Heathrow, parallel with a runway, the light was alongside us, keeping pace. This was pretty weird. A few years later I read of strange incidents around Heathrow.
We carried on driving westwards along the M4. There seemed to be lights in the sky to the north and to the south which were keeping pace with us. This was getting interesting.
Eventually we turned south, off the motorway. We had the idea to drive to Stonehenge. On the way there we stopped and parked at Woodhenge; looking westwards, we could see a low-level, flickering light that appeared to be zipping all over the place as it processed along its general direction. Ufologists have a name for this type of sighting, but I don't remember it.
We had driven on, I think, to Stonehenge, and were now driving back north. We had passed the turn-off to Woodhenge, and were approaching a triangular road junction at Upavon, just south of Pewsey. My eyes were beginning to close, I was so tired; then, approx. 300 yards in front of us, a craft of around 35 feet diameter, was coming slowly from the west towards the east, and was only at tree-top height! Amazing. We yelled. I pulled in off the road to the right, and we got out of the car. The craft had apparently flipped onto its side, and we saw a vertical circle of white lights, like a small Ferris wheel; this was about 20 white lights in a regular vertical circle. (See later: 'a large circle of white lights' in Douglas Bay, Isle of Man, 1999). Then the lights turned off, or the craft disappeared. We went to the boot of the car to get the a hot drink from the flask, then suddenly the craft was coming straight towards us, and overflew us and the car by about 50 feet. Yippee, amazing stuff.
We had a hot drink of tea, then decided to drive towards Alton Barnes, and the great white horse carving that is in the hillside there. As we approached the area where The Barge public house is, I stopped the car, and walked towards the back of the car. I think we spotted the same thing at the same time; over to the west a craft was slowly approaching us, again at about tree-top height. In the car, Dawn was thinking, "He's going to be beamed up!!!", she told me later. Outside of the car, I was sending and thinking the thought, "Keep going, I am not a good enough person to meet you". The craft carried on over us, flying towards the east.
Dawn and I were on such a high, we decided to drive around the four innermost White Horse hill carvings which make a diamond shape around Avebury Stone Circle, as a celebration. (There are actually eight white horses that make a very revealing pattern around the Avebury area.) Dawn and I were on a high for a week.
We had more sightings, and some very unusual events over the next several weeks. Mind-boggling. perhaps my mind needed boggling, to free it from constricted, left-brain, 20th century thought patterns.
[Note: I have been told there are past reports of 'aircraft that look/behave similar to aircraft, but don't actually seem to be aircraft' in the area of our contact - Upavon, just south of Pewsey. These reports of 'strange aircraft', I was told, date back several decades.]

1993 - Summer
Camped at the Barge Inn, Alton Barnes. Three large craft flew slow overhead.
----- More message were coming through hinting that it would be a good idea if I soon parted from Dawn. In truth, she seemed to be changing character, and into a character I didn't really like. One day I left. As I drove away I suddenly realised the chorus of the song on the cassette player I was singing along to didn't say, 'I can't see my way so clearly', I suddenly realised the chorus was, 'I CAN see my way so clearly'! Around then, a merlin hawk swooped low across in front of my car, and I started to feel wonderful.
I had a large geodesic dome tent (21 feet diameter, by nearly 11 feet tall). I put this up at the back of The Barge Inn at Alton Barnes, in the Pewsey Vale; this is known as the Magic Valley to some people. This was a lovely time, and I felt relaxed. Things were happening. Late one evening, a large craft of approx 50 feet diameter dawdled its way, from the east, slowly over the campsite; I believe other people were seeing this. Then a second craft. Then a third. They moved very peacefully, and I made a drawing of the pattern of the lights on the craft. I think they were easily less than 300 yards from us.

1994 - June
Glastonbury.
----- I was asked to help with events in the Green Field, at the Glastonbury Music Festival. I loaned the big dome tent for a venue where small groups could play, powered by cyclists on static bikes, pedaling. I led a sharing on UFO experiences in the lecture marquee. The organiser of the talk programme told me mine had been the best event held in the marquee. As I walked across to give the talk, I noticed a silvery object floating high above the festival site, it seemed to be a craft. A friend, Nick Ashron, a wonderful slide-guitar player, said he saw his first-ever spacecraft, others saw it too. This happened during the time my geodesic dome tent was being erected the night before the festival began. Many people felt a wonderful peace inside the dome tent, and the tent seemed to be connected with Nick Ashron's sighting.

1995 - October
THREE CRAFT over Saint Andreas Church, in the north of Isle of Man.
----- 1995 was an incredibly depressing year for me. I didn't know what had happened. The bottom seemed to have fallen out of my life, I was now in a swamp, and I seemed to be going further and further down. Perhaps someone or something (actually, I think it was the NWO and/or malevoent Aliens) had put a spell or a curse on me (more realistically, an energy or thought beam, or tracking and harassing equipment), and everything was now going wrong. Feeling like this, one evening I had gone to the Spiritualist Church and then, afterwards, sat on a small wall outside as people were leaving. The two last women leaving the church asked me if I was OK. I said 'Not really', and before I knew it, I was telling them about the three disc craft I had spent 20 minutes with back in 1986. One of the women, Sue, was astonished, and she exclaimed. Then she excitedly said that the previous weekend an amazing thing had happened. Late on the Saturday night Sue had been standing out in her garden when she noticed, way above her home in the village of Andreas, three disc craft moving around the sky. She said the three disc-shaped craft were emitting rainbow-coloured lights. Sue was pretty well jumping up and down with excitement; so perhaps I had been guided intuitively to mention 'my' three craft after all.
Then Sue seemed to be looking off into the distance, I could see she was recalling something. She said she was seeing in her mind thousands of spacecraft, there was a disaster happening on Earth, and the spacecraft were patroling around trying to lift people off, but apparently many people could not be picked up. She said this had happened a long time ago in the past. After a moment, Sue said the same thing will happen now, if we have a disaster, spacecraft will try to take people off but not many will be taken.
As I walked home across the town, I felt wonderful. Suddenly my world made sense; it all fitted together. I was being given information and warnings to pass on to people. I was a part of something that was happening, and the reason it was difficult for me was because just about everyone had forgotten the things they should have remembered.

1995
The carved Norse stone to 'Ragnarok' at Saint Andreas Church.
----- I believe the three craft, with rainbow lights, were flying above the ancient church at Andreas for a reason. Inside the church is a carved, Norse stone which refers to the Norse, mythical battle of 'Ragnarok'. Ragnarok is the final battle in Earth's history between the forces of good and evil. It is meant to be a terrible battle. 'The Gods' may intervene, and assist.

1995 (-1996)
The start of The Battle of Ragnarok.
----- With hindsight, I think the start of the Battle of Ragnarok was around 1996. And was getting near its peak in 2004 when the films of Tolkein's trilogy was completed with, 'The Return of The King' (I took this to be a good sign). People were realising the issue was basically survival. And, in 2004, the film 'King Arthur'. Signs come in the most strange ways. 2005 could be the turning point.

1997 - October?
White Light flew over my taxi, then approx 12 craft at Mount Murray Hotel.
---- See: http://www.michael-irving.meetings2.html

2004 - Summer
NEWS of THREE CRAFT being regularly photographed at Popocatepetl, Mexico.
----- >>>>>>>> To be completed
See: 'Mexico – Frequent UFO Sightings at Volcano'......
Near bottom of page: http://ufoinfo.com/filer/2004/ff0441.shtml

2004 - December
---- Flew to Mexico City, and went (again) to Popocatepetl area.

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Extracts from:
'Meetings With Three Spacecraft'.
By Michael Irving, of World-Action
http://www.michael-irving.com
http://www.michael-irving.com/meetings1.html
http://www.michael-irving.com/meetings2.html

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NASA Conspiracy

Lorenzo-g — Mon, 06 Jun 2005 06:23:13 GMT

Compelling Evidence

http://geniuswebs.co.uk/sublyme/clubweb/humour/moonshot.htm

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Planet X

bobs — Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:59:10 GMT

OK. Is there anyone who can spread some light on this subject for me?

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Filed under Twilight Zone

ionamiller — Tue, 05 Apr 2005 00:54:48 GMT

sent today from Ufologist Bill Hamilton.

iona
themodernalchemist.chaosmagic.com

> Hoax or Reality???
>
> The Secret of Roswell
> Author: Stuart Miller
> Source: S.M.
> Date: 4/1/2005
>
> As the editor of an e-zine (UFO Review), I do occasionally receive
> unsolicited material in the post or by email, which if appropriate,
goes
> straight into the mag. A month ago I received something which totally
took
> my breath away but I have been sitting on it ever since, unsure what
to do
> with it exactly. It needs checking.
>
> It came in the post, a bulky manila A4 envelope post marked the
> Philippines, containing 32 photo-copied pages, 30 of which were
> photographs. And what photos! The other two pages were a closely
typed
> explanation of what I was looking at plus some back ground
information.
> The letter was on plain paper with no identification of origin or
sender.
> It had obviously been composed on a word processor.
>
>
> In the mid 90s, as a result of public pressure, the U.S. government
in the
> shape of the GOA launched an investigation into Roswell and concluded
it
> was a Mogul balloon that had crashed near the infamous town in New
Mexico.
> During the course of their investigation, they were told that the
majority
> of official documents on the matter could not be found.
>
>
> For those taking an interest in the process, that news was greeted
with
> cynical knowing. In fact, it would have been a major bombshell if any
> "smoking gun" had surfaced and disappointing though it was, the fact
that
> nothing was uncovered was really only to be expected.
>
>
> The package I received related to Roswell and in particular, to those
> missing files. What the writer of the letter alleged was that there
was
> indeed plenty of material on the Roswell incident and that it could
be
> found in the National archives, if only you knew where to look.
>
>
> This is the story that the letter told. In 1951, President Truman,
> concerned with the fragmented manner in which the aftermath of the
Roswell
> incident had developed, and having lost track of a sense of the
timing and
> events and actions involved, demanded that the Air Force provide him
with
> a complete documentary summary of the whole affair. Being well aware
of
> the significance the event had taken on and how his military had
responded
> to it and the fact that there was a possibility he might be lied to,
if
> only by omission, he issued a series of personal and career threats
to the
> very senior military officials tasked with assembling the report,
> insisting that he be told the whole truth. He was. The report was
prepared
> and presented to him.
>
>
> It fell to Jean LeNoir, who was responsible for filing in the Truman
> office, to dispose of the file afterwards and this is where the fun
and
> games started. Using her own initiative, she divided the file into
three
> sections and recorded them under completely inappropriate
designations.
> One ended up in an agricultural section, another was inserted into a
> forestry section, and the third ended up in a subdivision devoted to
> American relations with Paraguay.
>
>
> Besides LeNoir, three other people knew what she had done and where
the
> files could be found. They told no one.
>
>
> Well, actually, someone must have said something at some point,
because
> presumably that is how I came to be in possession of a photo copy of
one
> of those files; the photographs taken by the official military
> photographer of the scene at the Roswell crash site.
>
>
> It is of course possible that I am the victim of a bizarre hoax and
that
> all this material is faked but if it is, then it is a thing of beauty
in
> itself. If it's real, then its awe inspiring. Truly.
>
>
> I'll tell you straight away that I am not going to reproduce any of
the
> photos here for this article. I'm not prepared to make a complete
fool of
> myself just yet. I have set certain activities in motion to determine
the
> validity of what I have been sent and that will take time. Only when
that
> process is complete, regardless of whether the pictures are real or
fake,
> will I then release them into the public domain.
>
>
> The pictures clearly display a classic saucer shaped disc, intact,
lying
> on the ground. There are close up photos of the craft as well as
interior
> shots and so they were obviously able to get inside. My best
guesstimate
> is that the craft is about 40 feet long and maybe half as tall. I
will
> tell you that there is clearly visible lettering, not in English,
written
> on the sides. It looks like hieroglyphics. On one photo of the craft
> showing the lettering, someone has scribbled on a print, "Anoitos,
Mera
> enas". One assumes that is a translation but I can't be sure.
>
>
> In some ways though the craft is almost incidental, for there are two
> other things that really catch the eye as you look at the prints. The
> first is that you simply cannot escape the picture of chaos, fear and
> intense excitement on the faces of the twenty military personnel
(that I
> counted) as they are pictured around the area. Everyone seems to be
> running, shouting, holding things up, all clearly in a highly
emotional
> tense and strained state. One man appears to be crying. This image of
very
> strong mental disturbance amongst the soldiers is so powerful when
you
> look at it that it leaps off the paper at you. If that alone was
> sufficient in deciding whether the pictures were real or not, then it
> would be a slam dunk.
>
>
> The other images that you cannot tear your eyes away from are perhaps
> obvious. Lying side by side on the ground are five alien corpses. And
> amazingly, there are pictures of two live aliens who had obviously
> survived, being given medical attention.
>
>
> But what aliens! These look like nothing you've ever imagined and
> certainly very different to the ones shown being dissected in the
alien
> autopsy film. Initially, there is slight disappointment. They look
like
> humans or pretty much so. They appear to be of average human height
with
> limbs and head in general proportion to ours. They have hair and they
all
> appear to be different in the same way that human features are
different.
> But there are markings on the head, scale-like almost, and in the
centre
> of the forehead is what seems like a crest or even a brand of some
sort
> embedded in the skin. The markings are identical on each individual.
It is
> the mark of a fish.
>
>
> It is only in one shot that you see something that really makes you
take
> notice. One alien is lying on his side and from his coccyx one can
clearly
> see a tail! About two feet long and with a brush at the end of it.
You
> simply cannot take your eyes away from it. It is the most gripping,
> absorbing sight you are ever likely to see.
>
>
> I have no idea why I was sent this material. My investigations are ongoing > and I will keep you appraised.

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Op-pressed

ionamiller — Thu, 05 May 2005 03:01:26 GMT

Commander-In-Thief
Welcome to George Bush's America: Secrecy and propaganda seen sweeping
U.S.
Posted on Tuesday, May 03 @ 10:04:19 EDT
This article has been read 224 times.
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By William Fisher, Inter Press Service

NEW YORK (IPS) - Freedom of the press is in decline in the United
States amid increased government secrecy and propaganda, say media veterans,
analysts, and advocates.

Contrary to the conventional wisdom here that U.S. media are the freest
in the world, the United States has suffered "notable setbacks" in
press freedom and has slipped among countries tracked by the New York-based
rights group Freedom House.

The organisation, in an annual survey released in advance of Tuesday's
commemoration of World Press Freedom Day, said media in Finland,
Iceland, and Sweden faced the fewest fetters in 2004 while the most
restrictions were slapped on journalists in North Korea, Burma (also known as
Myanmar), Cuba, and Turkmenistan.

The United States was tied with Barbados, Canada, Dominica, Estonia,
and Latvia at 24th place out of 194 countries covered in the survey.

Countries were scored based on three broad categories: the legal
environment in which media operate, political influences on reporting and
access to information, and economic pressures on content and the
dissemination of news.

Freedom House said the U.S. score declined in part because of "a number
of legal cases in which prosecutors sought to compel journalists to
reveal sources or turn over notes or other material they had gathered in
the course of investigations."

Judith Miller of the New York Times and Matthew Cooper of Time
Magazine, for example, face prison sentences for refusing to reveal their
sources in a case in which the name of a Central Intelligence Agency covert
agent was publicly revealed.

Neither Miller nor Cooper wrote articles about the case. Chicago Sun
Times syndicated columnist, Robert Novak, named the agent in print. But
the government is demanding that Miller and Cooper turn over any
information they have. The journalists have lost their appeals in lower courts
and will now take their case to the Supreme Court.

Doubts about official influence over media were fanned by revelations
that the administration of President George W. Bush was paying
journalists to espouse administration positions without identifying their
government sponsors.

In one case, the administration -- seeking to build support among black
families for its education policies -- paid a prominent
African-American pundit, Armstrong Williams, 240,000 dollars to promote the "No Child
Left Behind" law on his nationally syndicated television show and
through his newspaper column, and to urge other black journalists to do the
same.

Other nationally known journalists have admitted accepting thousands of
dollars to endorse government programmes.

"Paying journalists to write positive stories is part of a pattern of
secrecy and manipulating the public that undermines our safety and our
democracy," Steven Aftergood, who runs a project on government secrecy
for the Federation of American Scientists, told IPS.

Government agencies also have produced video news releases, or
pro-government propaganda made to resemble independent news, and distributed
them to local television stations across the country. The stations
frequently fail to identify the government as the source, thus encouraging
viewers to believe they are watching genuine news, Freedom House said.

The Government Accountability Office (GAO), the Congressional watchdog
agency, has called the videos a form of "covert propaganda."

More than 20 federal agencies have used taxpayer funds to produce such
television segments. Bush has defended the practice and has said he
plans to continue it.

But Martin Kaplan of the University of Southern California's Annenberg
School for Communication told IPS, "The consequence of their injecting
fake news into the media mainstream may be even worse than poisoning
public debate on specific issues. It corrodes the ability of real
journalism to do its job."

Charles Davis, executive director of the University of Missouri School
of Journalism's freedom of information centre, added, "Press freedom in
the U.S. is experiencing some dark days as government at all levels
seems content to turn its back on cherished freedoms in favor of
administrative expediency, executive privilege and propaganda. Its embrace of
secrecy to the point of caricature is but a symptom of the broader
disease. This is a government with absolutely no respect for the role of the
press in a democracy."

US News and World Report magazine recently complained that the Bush
administration has "quietly but efficiently dropped a shroud of secrecy
across many critical operations of the federal government -- cloaking its
own affairs from scrutiny and removing from the public domain important
information on health, safety, and environmental matters. The result
has been a reversal of a decades-long trend of openness in government."

White House spokespersons routinely counter such assertions by saying
that the administration's policy toward the media is honest and
transparent.

Even so, Jack Behrman, a former assistant secretary of commerce,
accused the administration of hypocrisy.

"Our government avowedly promotes freedom abroad but has sought
successfully to limit it in the U.S. through secrecy and manipulation of the
media," Behrman told IPS.

Copyright © 2005 IPS-Inter Press Service.

>From Inter Press Service:

http://www.ipsnews.net/africa/interna.asp?idnews=28527

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Da Vinci Code

masokid — Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:59:21 GMT

Well.... No one brought this conspiracy/secret society up so here it is....

The Da Vinci Code was presented as fact and Dan Brown still maintains it is fact although to date, he has declined all face to face debates/discussions with historians and clergy.

Opus Dei?
Priory of Sion?

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Less consumer choice?

bobs — Sat, 02 Apr 2005 15:52:55 GMT

Am I the only one who is questioning the reasons behind some of our larger stores to now stop stocking video recorders or walkmans in favour of DVD players or discmans? It's taken me a while, but over the years I have built up quite a large collection of tapes, not just video, but audio books and music tapes. My video recorder, and walkman are now both on the blink............... and it looks as though it would be an idea to buy not just a single replacement for them, but several others as well while they are still available, though with an every decreasing range to choose from.

It seems to me, that in the same way that the sale of records and record players were phased out, forcing everyone to replace not just their record players with cd players, but their collections of records with cds, that it was the consumer which lost out.

Now ( in the UK) we are also all being told that within a few years the analogue signals to rtv's will be stopped to replace it with a super-duper improved digital signal. The adverts assure us that a mere fifty odd quid ( which is not cheap) will buy us the set top recorder is all that's needed to recieve the new digital signal to our tv's. I was lucky enough to win one of these boxes, only to find that that was not the end of the story. I would also need an aeriel upgrade for it to work, which meant that it cost us 250 pounds. It seems to me, that the whole thing is unnecassary and that the digital technology companies are making an absolute mint from it.

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were these towns people targeted or was it a coinecedence????

Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:19 GMT

I started here

http://www.ministryoflies.com/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=8

Which lead to here
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index720.htm

Then here.

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2775370,00.html

And then here
http://www.bordc.org/paonia-res

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James Arthur dies

ionamiller — Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:08:14 GMT

http://rense.com/general64/james.htm

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James Arthur Dies, World's Foremost Ethno-Mycologist

James Arthur Dies, World's
Foremost Ethno-Mycologist
4-16-5

It is with regret that we announce the loss of James Arthur under circumstances which remain clouded and suspicious. A terse news report, disputed on a number of counts by his associates and family, states he was 'found dead in jail with a sheet around his neck.' His death has been ruled a 'suicide' according to police. No other details were released. He was arrested on charges of alleged 'sexual misconduct' with a minor...charges his associates claim were conveniently made by a recently-terminated 'secretary' who had reportedly been hired to type the manuscript of a new book...and then fired.

There is much more to this story and we will present further information as is becomes available.

James Arthur made his first appearance on national radio on our program and his extraordinary knowledge of human history and Ethnomycology were truly a marvel.

James subsequently became a regular and anticipated special guest every Christmas season and made a fascinating illustrated presentation on how the little red-capped amanita muscaria mushroom has been not only a staple of Christmas cards since the first cards were produced, but has, in fact, been pictured in illustrated history since Roman times. James' visits were always fun and intriguing, and unquestionably opened new doorways through which to reconsider many fundamental aspects of human experience for over two millennia.

James Arthur was a unique and gifted researcher and will be missed by many. The work he leaves behind, however, will continue to enlighten and stimulate all those who seek the truth of our history on this troubled planet. -Jeff Rense

The following Bio of James by our friend and colleague Jordan Maxwell is well worth reading...

By Jordan Maxwell
4-16-5

Having become fascinated with religions of all types at an early age James Arthur hurtled into deep study for 25 years. Having discovered works by such Pioneers (in Ethno-Mycology) as (1) R. Gordon Wasson and (2) John Marco Allegro. James set out on a quest to unravel the mysterious meanings and implications of sacramental ingestion of plants in a religious context.

In 1976 R. Gordon Wasson told James, in his opinion, James was the world's leading expert in the field of Ethno-Mycology, as it pertains to Christianity. He also referred to James as his dear friend. This was over 20 years ago and James has never stopped studying since. James devotes his work to his Mentor and friend R. Gordon Wasson and considers Gordon's life's work to be "The roots for the most valuable study of all".

Mushrooms/Religion/Ethno-Mycology

James Arthur has been a long time Student of Tibetan Buddhism (under the Guidance of Lama Tharchin Rimposhee, Lama Lodro, and many others). James' Tibetan name "DORJE DROLOD" has deep meaning in itself.

James is also an ordained Christian Priest. This is not meant to be a condoning of any priesthood or Christian religion but is only mentioned for reference purposes to show an in-depth familiarity (due to extensive study) with Christianity. James advises against joining any priesthood, religion, church or organization that requires a sworn oath or acceptance of a belief system.

James exposes faults as well as positive aspects of religion, a necessary step for anyone in the type of position he is in. As a teacher he releases the bonds of religious upbringing and indoctrination; empowering the individual. He considers study of all religions valuable as long as one is careful to discern between fantasy and reality and understand that the only universal law is the "Golden Rule".

James is/has been friends, and/or is associated with: R. Gordon Wasson, Terence McKenna, Sasha Shulgin, K. Trout, Dan Russell, Thomas Lyttle, Myron Stolaroff, David Hatcher Childress, William Bramley, Acharya S., Arthur Horn, Richard C. Hoagland, Stan Tennen, Lloyd Pye, Jordan Maxwell, Zechariah Sitchin, Neil Slade, Iona Miller, John Major Jenkins, William Henry, Jason Salzmann, John Allegro, Amado Crowley, David Aurora, Paul Stamets, Wade Davis, Peter Furst, Jace Callaway, Jochen Gartz, Giorgio Samorini, Christopher Dunn, Alan Alford, Karena Bryan, Abd el' Hakim Awayan, Stephen Mehler, Alan Alford, Ananda, Jack Barranger, Robert Eisenmann, John Allen, Paul Kroeger, Dale Pendell, Ann Shulgin, Andrew Weil, Manny Salzmann, Wade Davis, Bo Holmstedt, Gary Lincoff, Dennis McKenna, Taylor Lockwood and many others who have helped him to piece together the fabric of one of the most fascinating quilts of understanding. The quest for the meaning of life. It is highly recommended that you further research the names on this list.

James has lectured at conferences, given instruction, and advised in the fields of Ethno-Mycology, Shamanism, Religious Theology (Ancient and Modern Religions), Psychology, and Soul Healing in The United States and abroad for the last 19 years. A long time member of the M.S.S.F., N.A.M.A., An Ordained Priest, and qualified reader of the Tibetan Book Of The Dead, he has appeared on Radio talk shows such as Coast To Coast AM, "The Heart of The Matter" a "Perceptions Magazine" Radio show with Host Ivie West, "Hilly Rose" (The Master of Talk Radio), "Strange Universe" with host Sean David Morton, Santa Cruz based radio show "The Night Hawk" with host Dave Allen, The Jeff Rense Program, "The Laura Lee Show" with host Laura Lee, "The Lou Epton Show" with host Lou Epton, "The Jack Stockwell Show" with host Jack Stockwell, "The X-Zone" with host Rob McConnell, KPFK's "Roy of Hollywood" with hosts Jordan Maxwell and Eben Rey, various programs broadcast world-wide on WWCR (World Wide Christian Radio), "The Mythos Freethought Radio" with Host Wade Mythos, "Parascience and Beyond" with host Uri Geller. Co-guest appearances with Jordan Maxwell, and John Rapoport discussing Secret Societies and Initiatory Rites are the types of programs that have sparked considerable thought. Special appearances at the Mycological Society of San Francisco's (M.S.S.F.) 30th anniversary fungus fair, The Consciousness Technologies Conference in Sisters, Oregon, The Breitenbush Mushroom Festival (Oregon) and the Ancient Wisdom Conference in Gizeh, Egypt are examples of the various live speaking appearances in the last few years.

James has theories that have been making many knowledgeable people stand up and listen. He pulls no punches when it comes to explaining the origins of and establishment of religions and the usage of plants as spiritual tools throughout human history. Controversial and stunning, mind blowing and thought provoking he is a dynamic speaker that interjects some great humor into otherwise devastatingly serious topics. As he puts it and I wholeheartedly agree:

"The time has come for this knowledge to be revealed into plain sight. It is no longer the property of those few elite to keep hidden from the general population. The sleepers must awaken"
--James Arthur 1998

I invite you to read very closely a message of profound importance in our times.

Jordan Maxwell - 1998

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You've now heard...

aleksonder — Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:57:47 GMT

about the fastest growing tribe:

http://losangeles.tribe.net/tribe/f240b4a1-2c6b-451c-8637-d88d65f39edf?r=10025

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The Winds of Truth by Michael Irving

truthgathering — Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:40:33 GMT

The Winds of Truth
http://www.freewebs.com/winds-of-truth

Q: How are the unusual predictions and world events grouped at this website connected?
The 'Winds of Truth' website is essentially about the return of three special people to help the world, and, the Rainbow Dream Vision of Hope - 'The Twenty Count'.
http://www.freewebs.com/winds-of-truth/whitebrother.html
http://www.freewebs.com/winds-of-truth/rainbow.html

Q: Where does the information that three special people are to return come from?
This information comes from an elder of the Hopi sovereign nation, the late Dan Evehema. Here are links to two websites which have reproduced the late Dan Evehema's information on the Internet:
http://www.ouachitalk.com/prophecy.htm
http://www.light-mission.org/hopi.html

Q: Why is the author of the 'Winds of Truth' website passing on this information?
This information may be important for others to know so that they may form a fuller and more helpful picture of the main trends now happening in the world. When we know the big trends that are going on, it is easier for us to be positively involved.

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The Winds of Truth - The Turning of The Tide
“Courage is the ability to go beyond the familiar. May strength and vision be yours as you begin to establish the new. Follow your hearts! May your inner light be your guide. Realise the beauty and greatness you have within yourself and step ahead. Let your own dreams and wishes, feelings and thoughts, be your guiding light. This is the time of the people and the matter at hand is the Plan to save the Earth and all her inhabitants: the old and young, the four legged and winged, the creatures of the sea, and the plants and trees of the New Eden.”
http://www.freewebs.com/winds-of-truth/turning.html

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The Winds of Truth - "Our World Will Be Saved"
The Return of The Hopi’s True White Brother and The Two helpers
http://www.freewebs.com/winds-of-truth/whitebrother.html

“We were told that THREE helpers who were commissioned by the Great Spirit to help Hopi bring about the peaceful life on earth would appear to help us and that we should not change our homes, our ceremonials, our hair, because the true helpers might not recognize us as the true Hopi. It is known that our True White Brother, when he comes, will bring with him the sacred stone tablets.

”With him there will be two great ones, both very wise and powerful. One will have a symbol or sign which represents purity and is Female, a producer of life. The third one, or the second one of the two helpers to our True White Brother, will have a sign of a symbol of the Sun. He, too, will be very wise and powerful. One will have the symbol of the moja, or cross.

”It is also prophesied that, if the three helpers chosen by the Creator fulfill their sacred mission, and even if there are only one, two, or three of the true Hopi who remain holding fast to the last ancient teaching and instructions the Great Spirit, Massauu will appear before all, and our World will be saved. The three will lay out a new life plan which leads to everlasting life and peace. The earth will become new as it was from the beginning. Flowers will bloom again, wild game will return to barren lands, and there will be abundance of food for all.”

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The Winds of Truth
The Rainbow Dream Vision of Hope
http://www.freewebs.com/winds-of-truth/rainbow.html

There is a prophecy (actually, an 'interactive prediction', meaning, this is a future which can happen if we make it happen) of the intertribal medicine societies of the tribes of North America which is called the Rainbow Dream Vision. It is also called the 'twenty count' because it spans a period of 20 years. The RDV describes people across the world starting to stand up for what is right. The RDV warns us that "technology" will be used to try to stop us. It is reported that the main media and news in the world is controlled by less than ten people. The Internet, however, is organised by several hundred million people, all of whom have equal standing with everyone else. In recent years a big shift was been happening towards truth and accuracy, but we will have to persevere against those few people who wish to continue controlling the world for selfish and negative reasons.

"Some prophecy points to disaster, hopelessness and the annihilation of mankind. But other prophecies create a vision of joyful transformation through quantum leaps into love and light. We are dreamers and we create physical reality through the thoughtforms we hold. As things stand now, the human race is dreaming a hell. But as individuals and as a collective humanity it is our potential to dream of paradise and to create the kingdom of heaven on our Mother Earth. Could it be that the pain in our hearts caused by the hell we have created will spur us on into visions and creations of a world formed in love?" – Aleran

Extracts from The Rainbow Dream Vision of Hope:

--- The Rainbow People exist in every country, in every nation, in every land.

--- We must exert our influence, the sun dancers, the rainbow people, by gathering together and sharing our ideas and plans. If we put a double amount of energy with what we are for, we can change it. We can change it.

--- Soon we will re-establish contact in a very knowledgeable way with our ancestors from the stars. So mark that down because it will happen. The first wave will come from the Pleiades and will be totally acknowledged and will be known to all the world powers. The second wave will come from Sirius.

--- Many of the teachers, leaders and ceremonialists that are so-called traditional, but are trying to keep us locked in the past, will not function today – will fall. Many teachers and wise people will be seen for who they are and they will be the farmers, the labourers and the gas station attendants because the tagashala will be fully awakened.

--- All civil and social laws will have to be in conformity with natural laws or the people will not accept them and they will have the enlightenment necessary to reject those laws…. We will once again see the way to continue a new dream. We will be given the road map back to the stars….

--- We will see a real shift in planetary consciousness. Many of the enemies of the humans will begin to drop (original said "die") away. We will totally gain the light of the great light wheel. There will be one humanity, one planet composed of all the different ways of dancing in complete harmony in The Great Gathering Together Circle.

--- We will see a whole new way of perfection. Starvation on the earth – all those things will be gone.

--- The new race of humans will begin to design their new reality of life on this planet as they intended it to be when they first came here from the Stars. There is a whole lot I don’t even know. There is more that I am not supposed to talk about yet. This planet will have its design of energy movement guided by all of humanity living here.

We Can Change It.
The Rainbow People exist in every country,
in every nation, in every land.

The Rainbow Dream Vision, Vision of Hope, and Twenty Count, is an 'interactive prediction'. It is a suggested future which we can choose to create, and like all events in life, the achievement of the future described here will depend on the actions we all take. Please network the Rainbow Dream Vision of Hope.
http://www.world-action.org/vision.html

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The Winds of Truth
If you feel you would like to practically help this work, please look at ‘Letter of Request for Assistance for Winds of Truth’:
http://www.freewebs.com/winds-of-truth/letter.html

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The Winds of Truth
The Rainbow Around The Sun In March 2005
An unusual event happened on 9th, 10th and 11th of March 2005. I believe it is important.
http://www.freewebs.com/winds-of-truth/sunrainbow.html

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The Winds of Truth
The Eagle-Dove Symbol (Spacecraft?) Near The Sun
I have been told the object is the Native American 'THUNDERBIRD'.
http://www.freewebs.com/winds-of-truth/suneagle.html

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Awake, awake, the world is young, For all its weary years of thought.
The starkest fights must still be fought, The most surprising songs be sung.

Please pass this information to friends and contacts.

The Winds of Truth
http://www.freewebs.com/winds-of-truth

email: michael@world-action.org

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planned obsolesence

adamlink — Sat, 02 Apr 2005 03:34:50 GMT

For years, I've heard rumors abouot companies that repress news of any invention that may put them out of business. For example, there was supposed to be a car tire that would last ten times as long as the current ones do, but the tire companies killed the idea before it could get marketed.

I'm wondering if anyone has ever seen actual proof of this type of conspiracy.

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Your TV Dinner

ionamiller — Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:23:24 GMT

It may be your TV that eats YOU for dinner.
iona

This, or similar technology, has been operative in Australia [and no doubt around the world] for political manipulations by USA for decades!
Betty
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050331behaviormodificationtv

Subliminal Behavior Modification Through TV Described in US Patent
"It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or TV set. For the latter, the image pulsing may be imbedded in the program material, or it may be overlaid by modulating a video stream, either as an RF signal or as a video signal."
-- US Patent and Trade Office, Patent #6,506,148, 2/14/03 March 31, 2005 Dear friends,
The arsenal of mind control technologies developed by the government is quite vast. A number of well researched books on the subject have been published revealing the complexity and variety of these technologies. We highly recommend Dr. Armen Victorian's Mind Controllers for an excellent overview of the subject. Click here for a 10-page summary of this eye-opening book, which includes hundreds of footnotes for verification purposes. For a short summary of "non-lethal" weapons described in this summary, click here. The below patent describes technology used for behavior manipulation through TV, video, and DVD programming. If you have a science background, I invite you to read the patent to see the high level of sophistication involved. The manipulation is not done through the insertion of single-frame anomalies, as has been done in the past, but rather by modulation of the feed or signal. It is unfortunate that very few people are aware of these capabilities. I doubt there are any laws at present to protect us from such manipulation. Like any tool, these technologies can be used for either the benefit or detriment of society. Let us spread this information so that we might work together to assure that these technologies are not used for harm, but rather only for the benefit of humankind.

With best wishes,
Fred Burks for the WantToKnow.info Team
http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/srchnum.htm - US Patent and Trademark Office Website Patent Search Page
Click here to go straight to patent #6,506,148
As the patent is 16 pages long, only key excerpts are included below.
To see other patents dealing with subliminal behavior manipulation, click here.
United States Patent 6,506,148
Loos January 14, 2003
Nervous system manipulation by electromagnetic fields from monitorsAbstractPhysiological effects have been observed in a human subject in response to stimulation of the skin with weak electromagnetic fields that are pulsed with certain frequencies near 1/2 Hz or 2.4 Hz, such as to excite a sensory resonance. Many computer monitors and TV tubes, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or TV set. For the latter, the image pulsing may be imbedded in the program material, or it may be overlaid by modulating a video stream, either as an RF signal or as a video signal. The image displayed on a computer monitor may be pulsed effectively by a simple computer program. For certain monitors, pulsed electromagnetic fields capable of exciting sensory resonances in nearby subjects may be generated even as the displayed images are pulsed with subliminal intensity.
Inventors: Loos; Hendricus G. (3019 Cresta Way, Laguna Beach, CA 92651)
Appl. No.: 872528
Filed: June 1, 2001SUMMARY Computer monitor and TV monitors can be made to emit weak low-frequency electromagnetic fields merely by pulsing the intensity of displayed images. Experiments have shown that the 1/2 Hz sensory resonance can be excited in this manner in a subject near the monitor. The 2.4 Hz sensory resonance can also be excited in this fashion. Hence, a TV monitor or computer monitor can be used to manipulate the nervous system of nearby people. The implementations of the invention are adapted to the source of video stream that drives the monitor, be it a computer program, a TV broadcast, a video tape or a digital video disc (DVD). For a computer monitor, the image pulses can be produced by a suitable computer program. The pulse frequency may be controlled through keyboard input, so that the subject can tune to an individual sensory resonance frequency. The pulse amplitude can be controlled as well in this manner. A program written in Visual Basic(R) is particularly suitable for use on computers that run the Windows 95(R) or Windows 98(R) operating system. The structure of such a program is described. Production of periodic pulses requires an accurate timing procedure. Such a procedure is constructed from the GetTimeCount function available in the Application Program Interface (API) of the Windows operating system, together with an extrapolation procedure that improves the timing accuracy. Pulse variability can be introduced through software, for the purpose of thwarting habituation of the nervous system to the field stimulation, or when the precise resonance frequency is not known. The variability may be a pseudo-random variation within a narrow interval, or it can take the form of a frequency or amplitude sweep in time. The pulse variability may be under control of the subject. The program that causes a monitor to display a pulsing image may be run on a remote computer that is connected to the user computer by a link; the latter may partly belong to a network, which may be the Internet. For a TV monitor, the image pulsing may be inherent in the video stream as it flows from the video source, or else the stream may be modulated such as to overlay the pulsing. In the first case, a live TV broadcast can be arranged to have the feature imbedded simply by slightly pulsing the illumination of the scene that is being broadcast. This method can of course also be used in making movies and recording video tapes and DVDs. Video tapes can be edited such as to overlay the pulsing by means of modulating hardware. A simple modulator is discussed wherein the luminance signal of composite video is pulsed without affecting the chroma signal. The same effect may be introduced at the consumer end, by modulating the video stream that is produced by the video source. A DVD can be edited through software, by introducing pulse-like variations in the digital RGB signals. Image intensity pulses can be overlaid onto the analog component video output of a DVD player by modulating the luminance signal component. Before entering the TV set, a television signal can be modulated such as to cause pulsing of the image intensity by means of a variable delay line that is connected to a pulse generator. Certain monitors can emit electromagnetic field pulses that excite a sensory resonance in a nearby subject, through image pulses that are so weak as to be subliminal. This is unfortunate since it opens a way for mischievous application of the invention, whereby people are exposed unknowingly to manipulation of their nervous systems for someone else's purposes. Such application would be unethical and is of course not advocated. It is mentioned here in order to alert the public to the possibility of covert abuse that may occur while being online, or while watching TV, a video, or a DVD.
The following paragraph is from page 205 of Dr. Victorian's Mind Controllers:The latest development in the technology of induced fear and mind control is the cloning of the human EEG or brain waves of any targeted victim, or indeed groups. With the use of powerful computers, segments of human emotions which include anger, anxiety, sadness, fear, embarrassment, jealousy, resentment, shame, and terror, have been identified and isolated within the EEG signals as ‘emotion signature clusters.’ Their relevant frequencies and amplitudes have been measured. Then the very frequency/amplitude cluster is synthesized and stored on another computer. Each one of these negative emotions is properly and separately tagged. They are then placed on the Silent Sound carrier frequencies and could silently trigger the occurrence of the same basic emotion in another human being.
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Popular Mechanics of CIA lying

ionamiller — Mon, 04 Apr 2005 00:55:48 GMT

fyi - iona
subcutanaeous.org/Iona.html

BULLETIN ITEM: For Your Media Sorcery File: The Hidden Hand Of The CIA, 911 And Popular Mechanics

The Hidden Hand Of The CIA,
911 And Popular Mechanics
By Christopher Bollyn
Exclusive to American Free Press
3-19-5
A brutal purge of the senior staff at Popular Mechanics preceded the publication of last month's scandalous propaganda piece about 9/11. Pulling the strings is the grand dame of Hearst Magazines and behind the scene is her obscure husband a veteran propaganda expert and former special assistant to the director of the C.I.A. The Reichstag fire, a key event in German history, and the steps that followed en suite leading to the Nazi dictatorship of Adolf Hitler, provide remarkable precedents
for what occurred in the United States on 9/11 and since. The fire that consumed the German parliament building on the night of February 27, 1933, is widely believed, according to Encyclopedia Britannica, to have been contrived by the newly formed Nazi government to turn public opinion against its opponents and allow it to assume emergency powers. The day after the burning of the Reichstag, the government headed by Adolf Hitler enacted a decree for the Protection of the People and the State.
Hitlers emergency decree dispensed with all constitutional protection of political, personal, and property rights. Likewise, a month after 9/11 the U.S. Congress passed, without even reading, similar emergency legislation: the Bush administrations USA PATRIOT Act of 2001. The pre-prepared massive security act's long title is "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and
obstruct Terrorism." Within a month of the Reichstag fire, on March 23, 1933, the parliament passed the Enabling Act, whereby its legislative powers were transferred to Hitler's Reich Cabinet. This act, passed by a vote of 444 to 94, legally sanctioned the Nazi dictatorship, Another parallel is seen in the way George W. Bush and Hitler came to power. Bush obtained the presidency in 2001 through a Supreme Court decision after a flawed and un-counted election, while Hitler secured the German chancellorship through elections in November 1932 in which the Nazi Party
failed to win an outright majority. Hitlers propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, is thought to have let arsonists into the parliament building through a tunnel leading from the official residence of Hermann Gvring, Reichstag president and Hitler's chief minister. Gvring then presided over the official investigation, which blamed the communists. In a
similar manner, the Bush administration openly opposed an independent investigation of 9/11 and fixed blame on Osama Bin Laden and 19 Arab
terrorists. Based on this official, but unproven, explanation for 9/11 the United States has invaded and occupied two Middle Eastern nations. "DISINFORMATION AND DECEPTION" "Ninety-five percent of the work of intelligence agencies around the world is disinformation and deception," Andreas von B|low, former parliamentary official responsible for the budget for Germany's intelligence agencies, told American Free Press in December 2001. Like Nazi Germany of 1933, American newsstands today carry a mainstream magazine dedicated to pushing the government's truth of 9/11 while viciously smearing independent researchers as extremists who peddle fantasies and make poisonous claims. The magazine pushing the government's 9/11 propaganda, Popular Mechanics (PM), is published by the
Hearst family. Its March cover story, Debunking 9/11 Lies, has been exposed by credible researchers to contain numerous distortions and flawed conclusions. American Free Press revealed that Benjamin Chertoff, the 25-year-old senior researcher who authored the 9/11 article, is related to Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The PM article illustrates how a propaganda method, used by dictatorships, is now being employed by the U.S. government:
controlling mainstream media outlets to promote its version of 9/11. The actions of Michael Chertoff concerning the events of 9/11, the non-investigation that followed, the USA PATRIOT Act, and the propaganda being disseminated in PM, are strikingly similar to actions attributed to the Nazi ministers Joseph Goebbels and Hermann Gvring. While Chertoff is the czar of DHS, he is not sovereign at PM or Hearst Magazines, its corporate parent. The president of Hearst Magazines, one of the world's
largest publishers of monthly magazines with 18 U.S. titles and more than 100 international editions, is Cathleen P. Black, a 60-year old native of Chicago. Black oversees the publication of 175 titles around the world including Cosmopolitan, Harpers Bazaar, Town & Country, Esquire, Good Housekeeping, and Popular Mechanics. Black is a former president and publisher of USA Today. In 1983, Black was made president of the new
newspaper published by Gannett. The following year she was made publisher and soon became a member of Gannetts board of directors. Despite her efforts, her biography reads, USA Today did not show an operating profit in the eight years that Black was there. The newspaper's non-profitability notwithstanding, Gannett paid Black $600,000 a year for her efforts. USA Today reportedly had a circulation of 1.8 million when Black left in 1991. USA Today is often given away free of charge. Black left
USA Today to become president and chief executive of the nascent Newspaper Association of America (NAA), formed on June 1, 1992. She then became the leading spokesperson and lobbyist for the nation's newspaper
industry. Black's position at the NAA carried "considerable political
heft," Paul Farhi of The Washington Post wrote, "given that the 1,400 members of her organization control the nations editorial pages. In 1995, for an annual salary reported to be "in excess of $1 million," Black was hired by Hearst Corp. to head its magazine division. Named by Fortune
magazine as one of the Most Powerful Women in American Business, Black sits on the boards of Hearst Corp., the Advertising Council, IBM, and Coca-Cola. She is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
It is often said that USA Today is controlled by the CIA, which, like the paper, is based in McLean, Virginia. The little-known fact that Black is married to Thomas E. Harvey, an obscure lawyer who became a White House Fellow in 1977 and served as special assistant to the Director of Central Intelligence (DCI), provides substance to these rumors. Black's
corporate biography does not mention her husband. President Jimmy Carter made Harvey a White House Fellow in May 1977. "In that capacity," Harvey's biography reads, he "served as special assistant to the Director of the C.I.A. Following that he held senior appointed positions within the Department of Defense." The DCI at the time was Stansfield
Turner, who had replaced George H.W. Bush. Prior to serving the CIA,
Harvey worked at the New York law office of Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy. The international law firm, co-founded by Morris Hadley, a 1916 member of Yale University's secret society Skull & Bones, has ties to the CIA and lists William H. Webster, DCI from 1987-1991, as a senior partner. Webster also serves on the Homeland Security Advisory Council. In the 1980s, Harvey served as General Counsel and Congressional Liaison of
the U.S. Information Agency, the former external propaganda arm of the U.S. government. Harvey also served as Deputy Assistant Secretary for
the Army and Navy. In 1992, Harvey was personnel director for the
Bush-Quayle 92 Campaign. Calls to the offices of Black and Harvey for the purpose of this article went unanswered. THE COUP AT POPULAR MECHANICS
In the months leading up to the Chertoff article in PM, a brutal
take-over occurred at the magazine. In September 2004, Joe Oldham, the
magazines former editor-in-chief was replaced by James B. Meigs, who came to
PM with a deputy, Jerry Beilinson, from National Geographic Adventure.
In October, a new creative director replaced PMs 21-year veteran who
was given ninety minutes to clear out of his office. A former senior
editor at PM, who is forbidden from openly discussing the coup at PM,
told AFP that the former creative director was abruptly told to leave and
given severance pay of two weeks wages for every year spent at PM.
Three or four people have been similarly dismissed every month since, he
said. He said he was astounded that the coup at PM had not been reported
in the mainstream media. PM has long been a supporter of the U.S.
military. The magazine ran a full page ad in support of the troops in Iraq
and Afghanistan in May 2003. Since the purge last September, however,
PM readers have noticed that government propaganda has replaced
scientific writing. A letter to the editor in the current issue says, I think
you guys are just another tool in the governments propaganda machine.
Finis

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NEXUS Conference mid-May 05 Amsterdam

ionamiller — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 23:17:32 GMT

Join us from the UK? See you there.

Iona
ionaisthebomb.tribe.net

NEXUS CONFERENCE 2005 (Oregon)
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Date & Time: Wednesday, March 23 2005 - Sunday, May 15 2005
11:00 PM
MAY 13-14-15
GRAND KRASNAPOLSKY HOTEL, AMSTERDAM, NETHERLANDS

future science, ufo, health, behind the news

—15th May 2005
Grand Krasnapolsky Hotel, Amsterdam,The Netherlands
* The Mysterious Origins of Oil
* Secrets of Mary Magdalene’s bloodline
* The Covert Agenda to Weaponise Space
* The Electrical Nature of our Cosmos
* Earth Resonance & Mind Control
* Exopolitics and UFO D i s c l o s u r e
* Billy Meier & the Henoch Prophecies
* Russian UFO uncoverups
* A planet on the other side of the Sun?
* The Out-Of-Body Experience
* Geopolitics, Oil and the future
* Earth Energy Grids
* UFO Crash Retrievals
* Hi-tech ancient civilisations
* Big Brother and the New World Order
* Alternative health suppression & Codex
* Vedic Maths & Sacred Geometry
+ selected exhibits of interest
+ plenty of time to meet the speakers
and each other, in a relaxed atmosphere

Confirmed Speakers:
• Alfred Lambremont Webre (Canada) - H i g h - l e v e l
campaigner opposing the US weaponisation of space; and
founding father of exopolitics (ie that which happens after UFO
disclosure is achieved)
• Valery Uvarov (Russia) - Head of Russia's UFO and
anomalous archaeological research will share amazing
discoveries on Tunguska; the secret Siberian ‘Installation’; the
existence of a planet on the other side of the Sun; and the
Wands of Horus (healing rods used by ancient Egyptians)
• Jon Rappoport (USA) - Free-lance investigative reporter into
conspiracies; alternative health and secret societies.
• Prof. Siegfried Tischler (Austria) - Internationally recognised
expert on the suppressed origins of oil, will discuss geopolitics
and the future.
• Laurence Gardner (UK) - Presenting new and controversial
information on the bloodline of Mary Magdalene and more.
• Linda Moulton Howe (USA) - Author and journalist, will
present on UFO Crash Retrivals and the US government policy
of denial in the interest of National Security. .
• Richard Alan Miller (USA) - Ex-military intelligence, and
highly respected researcher into Earth frequencies and their
effects on living things, ie mind/mood control.
• Michael Horn (USA) - R e s e a rcher into the Billy Meier
contactee case, and the prophecies and related information
from those contacts.
• Nanci Trivellato & Wagner Alegretti (UK) - L e a d i n g
r e s e a rchers into the Out-of-Body experience. (
• Jain (Australia) - Author and lecturer on Vedic Maths, Sacred
G e o m e t r y, Magic Squares, Resonance, Harmonics and more
• Wal Thornhill (Australia) - International researcher into the
electrical nature of our solar system, comets and the cosmos.
• David Hatcher Childress (USA) - Famed researc h e r, explorer
and author will present on lost ancient technology and their
connection to Earth energy ‘grid’ s y s t e m s .
• Duncan Roads (Australia) - Publisher and editor of NEXUS
Magazine will be the master of ceremonies at the conference.
To register, or for more info, call or write: NEXUS MAGAZINE
55 Queens Rd,E. Grinstead, W. Sussex,RH19 1BG,UK. Tel: 01342 322 854 Fax: 01342 324 574
or book and pay online at: w
NEXUS CONFERENCE - ACCOMMODATION INFO
To book at the Grand Krasnapolsky Hotel, you have the option of:
a) booking via your travel agent
b) booking directly with the hotel using the form enclosed
c) booking via an online accommodation agency, such as
www.amsterdam-hotels.org where deals at nearby hotels, hostels, or
house-boats can also be found.
ABOUT THE GRAND HOTEL KRASNAPOLSKY
NH Grand Hotel Krasnapolsky is a phenomenon in Amsterdam, the Netherlands
and throughout the world. What once began as a coffee house, became the largest
5 star hotel in The Netherlands.

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Did we land on the moon?

bobs — Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:49:03 GMT

The arguments from both sides are compelling, but the fact the the arguements against are so strong leaves you wondering.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/solarsystem/earth/moonvote.shtml

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